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Ivan_98077's avatar
4 years ago

Self learning AI Bots

  1. How likely is it that bots have a self-learning system to get to play like a real player? Considering that the bots will be part of the multiplayer battlefield 2042, it would be nice if they at least have a good level of difficulty and are skilled and useful.




 
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  • @Ivan_98077 Go play any 1st person single player shooter with AI enemies.
    That should tell you everything about Dice's self learning bots.

    The only aspect that will change about the bots is how accurate they shoot and that will be it.

    AI bots in single player games haven't evolved much at all since the original Halo, Fear and Killzone games came out years ago.

  • @Ivan_98077 wrote:
    1. How likely is it that bots have a self-learning system to get to play like a real player? Considering that the bots will be part of the multiplayer battlefield 2042, it would be nice if they at least have a good level of difficulty and are skilled and useful.
     

    Gawd! If they are going to learn from the way I play then they are in big trouble!


    @Ivan_98077 Wrote:

    Go play any 1st person single player shooter with AI enemies.
    That should tell you everything about Dice's self learning bots.

    The only aspect that will change about the bots is how accurate they shoot and that will be it.

    AI bots in single player games haven't evolved much at all since the original Halo, Fear and Killzone games came out years ago


    @CyberDyme has been singing their virtues - I think he has a little insight, but he is fairly confident that they can hold their own. Dont forget playing like a real player means that some will play like noobs as well as some as a seasoned vet. 

  • Jesse165's avatar
    Jesse165
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @lzilchetl That is what I was thinking as well. Hoping that they would be able to hold their own very well... Then I saw how dumb they were in the beta.

    I'm trying to stay in a positive mood... But after that I am not so sure anymore.

    I am really hoping that build was super old and that they have been improved a ton since then.

    Wish I could have a good conversation with the developers about this to find out how good they will really be for the full game and how deep the customization for Portal is since they did already confirm we will be able to tweak their difficulty as well.
    1. Playing like a real player, I don't mean that you play like any player but like a good player. There is a game that I do not remember its name, it is role-playing, strategy, and the AI ​​has a self-learning system that reached the point of being practically invincible even by the best player in the world.

  • @Ivan_98077

    I don't expect they'll turn them into self learning AI Soldiers, will probably be too much effort for what they're intended for.

    They want the AI Soldiers mainlyfor filling up servers instead of getting empty over time if some players decide to drop out.

    But as soon as a player wants to join a full match then, a Bot will just leave and get the real player in.

    So let's say they're kinda like place holders too. 😉

    Greets,

    Travis 

  • @Ivan_98077It is very unlikely they are actively learning.

    I rather think of the “AI soldiers” as AI injected bots. The AI has already done the “learning” through previous learning iterations and it’s resultant behavior scripts are loaded into the bots.

    They do have varying levels of “intelligence” and associated difficulty and skills. There can also be multiple different skill level AI Soldiers on the map at one time, so there is certainly more that EA DICE can do and I suspect it will be a feeling-out process as the game develops post-launch.

  • lzilchetl's avatar
    lzilchetl
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    They need to represent the skill levels of a typical server... though there are questions here about matching aren't there.

    I don't think any of us would really enjoy a server where every second combatant had taught themselves to be the ultimate killing machine.

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