Yes, the patches have made the situation better but I feel that SMGs are still a tad too good, especially at range, compared to other weapon types.On the subject of range......I am torturing myself using the LCMG, on the whole I accept its limitations with one exception. Engaging almost anyone but especially snipers at range is really frustrating given the LCMGs ADS time and relative inherent inaccuracy. I can see, ADS at, open fire and start hitting someone one but they still have time to make a well aimed shot and dome me.This is not right. I don't think the LCMG needs a buff in and of itself but bring back suppression I say....

Nothing wrong with the smg’s it’s the other guns that are so poor

i T1 the lcmg it was painful till i switch to short barrel close combat rounds. but yea i feel if ur lighting up a sniper they should have flinch or something

@emerson1975Damage is good enough to still OHK on the most part and that is part of the problem.How does a weapon being 'easy' especially if they can OHK make them 'poor' compared to SMGs?Indeed, I would argue that SMGs are 'easy' compared to other weapons so does that make them poor too?And drama queen? Me? I'm not the one spamming all the hate threads with "DICE are meanies and and rubbish, oh woe is me.....".There is no drama or hissy fits in this thread unless/until you bring them.

@Trokey66 I'm on the 4th mastery for LCMG. Basically, I abandoned long range and went full CQC/hip fire. Added in the extended mag. I swap between that and the M5 which I also have kitted for CQC/hip fire. I also got the first mastery on the pump shotgun.The pattern? All CQC because SMGs are indeed OP at range. Not joking, over half of my deaths minimum are by SMGs. Most of the rest by DMRs or AC-42. I'm a flag attacker anyway. I don't care for sniping at all, and rarely attach scopes. So hip fire/CQC serves me well. But the imbalance of the SMGs in particular coupled with the power of the DMR makes CQC a must for most anything else.

@Nuke81 Yeah snipers just take the rounds and pop you right back. I get hit all the time by an NTW after hitting them repeatedly. There should be some kind of flinch so that they can't just one shot you while your bullets bounce off them lol.

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emerson1975
4 years ago
Let’s set it straight before trokey starts throwing a hissy…snipers have barely any scope sway or bullet drop thus easy to use but damage isn’t great depending on ammo used BUT a gamer new to the game could pick them up an play easily
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@emerson1975Damage is good enough to still OHK on the most part and that is part of the problem.

How does a weapon being 'easy' especially if they can OHK make them 'poor' compared to SMGs?

Indeed, I would argue that SMGs are 'easy' compared to other weapons so does that make them poor too?

And drama queen? Me? I'm not the one spamming all the hate threads with "DICE are meanies and and rubbish, oh woe is me.....".

There is no drama or hissy fits in this thread unless/until you bring them.
ivorycannon
4 years ago
Subs are OP another broken thing in bf2042
filthy_vegans
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
No! Don't mess with my MP9!
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@filthy_vegans Sorry mate but......
A_al_K_pacino_A
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
I've just unlocked the previously OP PP and that certainly didn't seem too strong. The damage range is clearly less than it was and the assault rifles don't seem to be outclassed by it at range.
Stew360
4 years ago
@Trokey66
I totally disagree with everything you says and proove you are elitist for a certain classes of weapons ..

I have master every single AR and SMG and i can say that SMG are pretty well balanced as they are and NO they are not a tiny bit to powerfull they are where they should ..

Should i say the M5 is to powerfull in CQC because of small barel and or SMG amo atachements ? No M5 is a versatile weapon that does not exel at anything .. Range dominant weapons remains the Scout riffle and Snipers .. Medium range dominant remain AR and the CQC dominant remain SMG and shotguns . .

You simply cannot reduce the SMG range further because if they do SMG will become 100% useless .. there is not much Really close CQC fights in the game and the range of the SMGs wich replaced carbines in this game are in their sweet spots
Rusty Rat
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@emerson1975 Totally agree. What is the point of giving us huge open maps and then weapons with COD range limitations?
Sniper rifles should be able to reach out to a thousand metres effectively, but take skill to use. Make them slow to aim and inaccurate when standing (you currently get no accuracy bonus for kneeling or going prone).
LMGs should be effective out to 500m, Assault rilfes minimum 300m and SMGs between 100 to 150m. Even pistols should be lethal (but not necessarily accurate) out to 100m. Shotguns would be dependent upon load.
The poor effectiveness of the weapons just means most people play meta and you end up with tight balls of combat with huge empty spaces.
BizzyVaping
4 years ago
The Mp9 needs some major adjustments. I don't find the other 3 SMGs to be OP in any way right now.

The MP9 is ridiculous though. Outshoots the assault rifles at any range. It's basically the same as the PP29 was before the nerf.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Stew360 Your first sentence really wanted me to ignore you entire post but I persevered....

SMGs are balanced against what?

Your last paragraph contradicts your view on SMGs and 'range dominance' because SMGs can go beyond CQC. You also state the SMGs (and shotguns)are CQC 'dominant' but then say there is little CQC (Breakthrough says hello!).

And where, in you 'range dominance' do LMGs sit? You haven't mentioned them at all?

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