The melee system in Bf 2042

I have seen leaked gameplay. Trust me, it is not looking good. The guy playing hit someone 2 times with a knife and the victim did not die. I hope they introduce a new melee system in the full game. 

It's not an I win button. If you want to melee someone, you have to dodge bullets to get him. But no one says anything about the Shotgun, the true I win button. Is it balanced to have melee, with the reach of 1 meter, 2 hit kill, and the Shotgun, which is for 4 meters, 1 hit?

The counters knife was the stupidest mechanic ever. The melee kill should be a reward for reaching the enemy without dying to gunfire. What's the point of punishing something that needs to be rewarded? I'll reminde you that in chess, if a pawn reaches the enemy line, it gets promoted to a qween, knight, Rock or bishop. It isn't instantly eliminated from the game. 

@EpistimonKapetanExcept that is usually not the case.

The vast majority of players end up in melee due to terrible spawn locations or due to simply blindly running into it, not actively seeking melee combat. This inevitably results in the panic knife which, based on Battlefield 1 and V, was determined by who hit the “melee button” first…

And please do not get me started on the bayonet attack…

Lazy design.

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@carsono311 wrote:

@EpistimonKapetanExcept that is usually not the case.

The vast majority of players end up in melee due to terrible spawn locations or due to simply blindly running into it, not actively seeking melee combat. This inevitably results in the panic knife which, based on Battlefield 1 and V, was determined by who hit the “melee button” first…

And please do not get me started on the bayonet attack…

Lazy design.

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Pickups excluded; neither BF1 or 5 had one hit melee kills other than from behind. The way they work in BF1 and 5 is the exact same way it works in BF3 but with more variety in weapon damage/speed. Battlefield 4 (and maybe Hardline?) are the only Battlefield games in the series that has the OHK knife from any angle with the only counter to it being a quick time event.

That being said, the refractor engine Battlefield knives were also OHK from any angle but there was no key to use it. You had to equip it first and the range was so short that its only practical use was for knifing snipers and other stationary targets.

Personally I would prefer that there was no quick knife button and that you had to equip it first but that's not likely to ever happen so I would rather that knives were not OHK to mitigate the effectiveness of panic knifing and so we don't need to see a return of quick time events in Battlefield multiplayer.

ps. Dice LA did remedy panic bayonet by implementing a minimum charge distance but I believe Dice Sweden chose not to implement that fix (and many others) for Battlefield 5.

@NoodlesocksI agree, however that mostly seems like a technicality. If you had any damage, or were unlucky, or bayonetted… One shot kill.

Also, the melee attacks were so fast, takedowns were inevitable and so we are back to like I said before… whoever melees first.

@EpistimonKapetan well, after some gameplay what we saw it seems that the Knife animations turn into third person view as soon as you start the melee kill.

Also seems to be a one hit kill as you can tell from the following clip in the link...

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1433807020495343625?s=19

At least one hit by a Specialist.

But we all can say more as soon as we can jump into the Beta.

Greets,

Travis 

@EpistimonKapetanPanic knifing only earned its stigma in Battlefield 1 and V for rewarding a dog tag simply based on spamming a button if in range (and some of those ranges were ludicrous by the way).

There is nothing tactical, decisive, or interesting in blindly spamming a button, it pales in comparison to previous melee systems, and it should not be rewarded.