The Question of Aim Assist
Okay, I'm finally putting this here, because I am really, really at a loss. How powerful is the console aim assist? From my POV, it might as well be a legalised aimbot. Currently, I have to resort...
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@Moab23 what's you ping? this franchise, for as long as I can remember, has catered to higher ping players. if you have a low ping, you are at a disadvantage. and what you usually describe is lag (and probably some cheating), not AA. the hours you are playing are probably a low player count timeframe, so you get matched with players having higher ping.
@TwentyValve I can play anywhere from noon until night. My ping is 28-40 on average, and whenever I've had a high ping, I die even more quickly because nothing can be hit. I used to watch players with 12 ping dominating matches. I watched players with 300 ping dominating matches. Makes no difference. Now that crossplay is permanently enabled, it makes even less difference. Single rank console players are all landing headshots, performing 180 spins, clearly locating you through obstructions, tanking damage and killing instantly. I have console players outranging rifle shots with SMGs. I have players eating a full railgun magazine when a bot can only take three rounds to kill. Same old, same old. Enemy player takes an age to die, but kills me the way you'd kill a bot.
- @Moab23 It definitely feels like some people know how to exploit hit reg using a VPN or something. 2042 uses dedicated servers, so it shouldn’t matter, but I still have a feeling there’s a way. My ping is exactly the same as yours. I’d definitely love to see others connections in game. People with high ping, using WiFi, and packet loss should be the ones having a bad time.
If I miss a single shot or don’t take someone somewhat off guard, it’s incredibly hard to win fights. I’m pretty convinced it’s a combination of aim assist and the net code. I get completely lasered even behind cover, head glitching, and being very twitchy.@RaginSam When I play against bots, I can blitz each one in a few rounds. Kill maybe four with the railgun mag. In a player match, you're lucky to get one. But you've got players mowing people down with any weapon they choose and its like watching them playing against bots. Damage and hit registration should not be any different for them, yet somehow in every match they compensate for 32-64 varying players with all those variables of movement and latency, and they do the same thing every single time. Inch perfect accuracy. Headshots with holo sights that outrange powered scopes. Its like when you watch Jackfrags (who I understand has actually been banned from games for using cheats) capping people left right and centre like its nothing, and its like watching someone playing bots. Even when I play against bots, and I can rack up like 160 kills, I may also die up to 13 times because the bots get a shot in. Yet somehow these players, against actual players, get sometimes a fraction of that death amount. Something seriously does not add up with them.
- @Moab23 There’s this drive to be the best in FPS games. You get more viewers on twitch and recognition. FPS games are also designed around feeling good about performing well and not much else. Look at games like Apex, people mostly watch streamers that are aliens with their aim.
Between game design and pressure to gain viewership on twitch there’s a lot more cheaters than people like to admit. They try to appear legit and closest to the edge of what’s humanly possible.
I love the mechanics of FPS games, but it gets tiring knowing how many people aren’t playing fairly. I’ve been trying to find other types of games, mostly MMO’s because I love the concepts, but mechanically they’re usually pretty unsatisfying.
I’m still enjoying BF2042 very much though.
- @RaginSam It has nothing to do with high ping, packet loss or the non working aim assit.
Everyone from highping low spec pc users to god pc machines on fiber to PS5 an Series X/S players are all complaining about hit detection and hit registration. PC players though wrongly attribute this to the non functioning aim assit and console players blame the fact being a PC player is enough.
Fact is its a issue with the crossplay in general. The three systems dont get along. As every complaint is damn near the same. PC players saying consoles lazor them and kill them around corners and dont take damage and Console players are saying PC mouse and keyboard makes PC players unkillable and with broken aim assit there is no way to compete.
Both are blaming the wrong thing. Its a fundamental game problem down to its core.
I will say this though I'd say 90% of the time it's a PC player that ends up being top in kills unless a console player is in a vehicle. This total lop sided top kill should point to console players are having a hell of a harder time given the non working aim assit to lower resolution and lower framerates.
Crossplay is by far the worst thing EA/Dice has done to this Franchise. Its poorly implemented and frustrating all parties involved.- @xXHappy_PuppyXxI appreciate what you’re saying and agree with most of your earlier comments, however respectfully disagree about the top player. Since this debate has been going on, I’ve been paying attention to it and consistent see consoles as most kills, even if not top on the leader boards. If PC players are so dominate, why are more than half the matches I play in topped by consoles? I also look at the platforms in the player screen, and it’s still about 50/50 PC & console. Desync is horrible, connection / netcode etc, 100% agree this makes proving that anybody has an advantage. We can probably all agree that high ping players on MM servers are just as much if not more of an issue as aim assist is. I just don’t think the software is ready for cross play that is fair to all.
