The thermal scopes seem to work just as a filter instead they should grant to see through smoke grenades and other type of dust and be countered by raging fires.Also right now it just highlights the operator's skins and guns, because of that it is sometime difficult to distinguish the head from the rest of the body (espacially in foliage mimetic skins), instead it should be the model under the skin to be shown in a different color.

1) That would make thermals ridiculously OP.2) What raging fires? There are hardly any fires active at any given time- raging fires even less so. And since fire grenades is countered directly by smoke- thermal would ruin that balance. 3) That's not how thermal even works. What is the point of camoflage / guillie suit if can be countered by a scope anyone can equip?

first off you asking for thermals to see trough smokes is only going to encourage people to sit even further back with a sniper rifle and play "high contrast immersion gaming"... i can already imagine how horrible gameplay would feel on the more open maps with 10-25 people sitting somehwere in a bush with thermals and the railgun....secondly if DICE were to actually do this then they need to give everyone the option to add magnesium powder to their smokes as to make them appear like a white cloud to thermals... you know as a counter.in the end this will hopefully never happen because it will not add any value to the moment to moment gameplay.

@bevvoo thermals already see through smokes that are not caused by the players.They do not see through player made smoke for balancing purposes

@bevvoo With how flat the maps are, one can easily understand the decision to make thermals unable to see through smoke.After using thermals for a good bit, I am of the opinion that the decision is indeed a good decision as it allows smokes to remain useful. It also gives thermals a proper purpose instead of being a be all and end all replacement for standard scopes. It's great for target identification but they're not so great for target engagement and that's perfect.I am quite curious as to what raging fires you are talking about though.The only thermal sight that can see through smoke is Casper's drone and I think this is intentional, however he cannot spot in smoke which is also intentional.

@S3SSioN_SoL wrote:@bevvooWith how flat the maps are, one can easily understand the decision to make thermals unable to see through smoke.After using thermals for a good bit, I am of the opinion that the decision is indeed a good decision as it allows smokes to remain useful. It also gives thermals a proper purpose instead of being a be all and end all replacement for standard scopes. It's great for target identification but they're not so great for target engagement and that's perfect.I am quite curious as to what raging fires you are talking about though.The only thermal sight that can see through smoke is Casper's drone and I think this is intentional, however he cannot spot in smoke which is also intentional.Since this thread was resurrected. Just want to echo that since June, smokes being able to work against thermals was a great decision balance wise.

THERMAL SCOPES should be able to see through SMOKES (and other adjustments)

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Zahmbomb420
2 years ago
@Noxynoxnox
"1) That would make thermals ridiculously OP."
I guess real life physics and science is overpowered.
Zahmbomb420
2 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE6lBpwLc14

Sick and tired of AAA studios rushing and half assing games. Electronic Arts has always been one of the worst offenders of this since the 90's.
S3SSioN_SoL
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@S3SSioN_SoL wrote:
@bevvooWith how flat the maps are, one can easily understand the decision to make thermals unable to see through smoke.

After using thermals for a good bit, I am of the opinion that the decision is indeed a good decision as it allows smokes to remain useful. It also gives thermals a proper purpose instead of being a be all and end all replacement for standard scopes. It's great for target identification but they're not so great for target engagement and that's perfect.

I am quite curious as to what raging fires you are talking about though.

The only thermal sight that can see through smoke is Casper's drone and I think this is intentional, however he cannot spot in smoke which is also intentional.
Since this thread was resurrected. Just want to echo that since June, smokes being able to work against thermals was a great decision balance wise.
S3SSioN_SoL
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Zahmbomb420 wrote:
@Noxynoxnox
"1) That would make thermals ridiculously OP."
I guess real life physics and science is overpowered.
I always love these posts that do not factor in gameplay in anyway.
By this logic, a single bullet should incapacitate any soldier. Carrying an RPG should replace your primary weapon. Getting in and out of tanks should take 5 minutes.
I could go on...
At least make a constructive suggestion such as: There should be an option to allow thermals to see through smoke in Portal.
Bam, did it without offending anyone.
TG_Maveric2022
2 years ago
@Zahmbomb420
It is an intentional design choice to avoid the thermal dominance from the older BF games.
They can still see through the smoke that is not caused by players.

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