Vehicle fest - Please stop this
There are too many vehicles all the time and they are too OP. People can spawn vehicles too fast and there is no chance for infantry to survive spawning. Too many vehicle farmers in all matches. This killed the game.
Forum Discussion
60 Replies
@Noodlesocks wrote:Just remember if you use the vehicle just to taxi, you're giving the enemy a free vehicle from your team's vehicle limit. Noticed so many times that enemies will abandon their vehicles on the objective only for me to grab it and limit their ability to spawn more vehicles.
The LATV4 is not a vehicle I'd choose for sustained combat - you get shot out much too easily. Jeeps tend to be used and dumped for this reason.
I wouldn't call in any other vehicle if I intended to jump out. I suspect you probably don't hang around in jeeps too long either.
I think if Dice made it that Vehicles run out of ammo and need to be resupplied it would make this issue more manageable. I think Tanks, Humvees etc can be resupplied in the field by another player (with ammo crates). Air vehicles should have to return to base to resupply Ammo and Flares etc this would make air vehicles have to get out of air space for a few minutes to allow ground forces some time to take objectives without a little bird or other attack heli from just dropping down rocket death on everything.
I would also make the spawn time for vehicles longer than what it currently is. Allow the ground forces to get into prolonged battles before an onslaught of Vehicles arrive to dominate.It would also be nice to have the little bird either have Rockets or Mini guns... not both.
- @AzoreanAssassin Everything up until the spawn timer thing was fine, with the amount of anti vehicle options a 1:30 timer + the personal lockout timer is punishing enough as is, speaking for the tank side, since again everyone just says 'vehicles' and dont specify actual overbearing platforms, which thank you for actually pointing to a particular vehicle that you have a grievance with.
The compromise for a longer timer would be -again speaking for tanks since last time I played they were and probably are still stupidly under tuned- would be they need to be harder to kill, otherwise you're just asking essentially for an infantry only experience, clearly the Bolte is still an issue with folks but this does not mean smash every vehicles numbers with a nerf bat because of 1 ground platform. -No fun allowed unless you're infantry- is not the way to look at this, please keep in mind this IS still supposed to be... and I say supposed to very loosely at this point, a combined arms game.
No one seems to like to talk about the power projection of infantry short respawn times, and spawning on any squad mate. anywhere at almost any time -short "in combat" timer- with any particular set of weapons and gadgets or flying squirrel suits or w/e that is needed. Want a meaningful feeling for a ground push? Remove hp regen across the board, this is for vehicles and infantry, remove spawning on any squad member and restrict it back to being the squad leader only who can be spawned on post round start -as in you can still spawn in on squadmates vehicles at the start of the round-.
The ammo limitation would def cut down on how overbearing some platforms currently are and would 100% support it going back to something like this, less spam, more reliance on folks that want to actually play a team oriented game as opposed to trying to be every superheros in existence combined into 1 person.
and that's my weekly input, but again still no signs of meaningful change. @Anti-Tank-KillerIf they made the vehicles limited on ammo I think the timers would be fine. The reason I mention timers is because you can literally spawn a tank on the roof top of a 100 story building. I think vehicles should only spawn and home base or at a captured point that has stayed captured (without being lost) for a set period of time.
I love playing in tanks because I can sit in one for practically the whole game without getting killed. Once you have the auto repair ability on a vehicle you can be pretty hard to destroy unless someone with C4 gets to you or a Jet/Heli takes you out. I just want to add a more realistic feel to the BF experience, this means once vehicles are taken out its going to take some time before they are back in action on the same part of the field. I think the Ammo resupply alone could make this 10x better.- @AzoreanAssassin Either I'm replying to you in two different threads or two people are saying very similar things lmao yes my memory is that bad. Either way I get the displeasure of the ominous roof tank, but sadly I also feel your desire for this BF to have more believable realism elements is going to leave you disappointed even further.
I miss actually relying on infantry and infantry relying on vehicle support and being an actual force multiplier and just having wicked fun firefights,and 'oh hey enemies holed up in that building hey Mr.Tank we cant punch through their entrenched position can you please soften them up so we can go in there and eat their eyes?' what we have now is just... no. I want fun infantry play, and fun vehicle play and there to be some sort of synergy again but right now everyone is just a body and everyones just on farm mode. It's really sad and boring.
But I digress, yes ammo limit, good, hp regen for all, bad. I think they should raise the hit points of the rocket launcher and add more ammo
- @AzoreanAssassin The call-in system is a giant fail. Vehicles should spawn at base and not all over the map.
But again everything is just not working anymore mostly because of 128 players and the large maps which Dice cannot balance.
We had limited ammo in BFV and the amount of whining from vehicle players... - @ATFGunr
Its the most COmbine arms focus battlefield since BF2 and 2142 i would say BF3 was almost an arena shooter and BFBC was a " Lane shooter " where all maps were designed like a long corridor shooter ...
2042 was truely designed to be a Conquest game and goes at the roots of what make BF a BF games .. but peoples are so busy hating on the game and creating drama base on missconception that this is not seen by the regular dude who just follow the trending thing .. And right now the trend was set by the most vocal to hate on the game so the followers type personality follows .. @Stew360Assuming everyone and theyr mother is a following type is pretty arrogant and exclude you anyway from any serious discussion.
People just don’t like the game, be it either underwhelming low performance, be it gamebreaking bugs or be it the netcode who cant handle 128 players.
That + map design (almost no cover, transport vehicle spam like bolte or scouts) completely ruins any fun for infantry which you are most of the time except you wait in the spawnscreen doing nothing.
True bf experience… never smirked so hard.
That’s why this game literally died 2 months into it, right ?Cant remember the last Time when all out clonefare aka specialists where a true BF experience.
Or theyr cringe dialogues which are completely out of touch.
Today I had not one single game without bots and a few game with endless lobby time where after it returned to the main menue.
I guess you are the following type for BS huh ?
@cso7777 wrote:This is partly due to the maps being really bad (no cover)
I think this is one of the difficult things to address. On multiple maps, there is literally nowhere to hide against a decent player in a nightbird besides an elevator. Both helis and jets can swoop into a zone, pop flares, mince a group of players and then disappear back into the sky or behind an inaccessible building without anyone ever getting a chance to lock. This means your best bet is either a lucky recoilless or hoping you've got someone who is good at air support on your team (particularly difficult or impossible on some breakthrough rounds).
With tanks, spawning in one at the beginning of a round is frankly suicide. Two jets fly in with AT and you're toast before ever firing off a single shot.
The only chance you really have to defend yourself against a strong air team is a Condor / Super Hind. But this only works if those in said vehicle actually work as a team, you need a pilot who knows what they are doing, and gunners who know what to target and when. The ceiling needs to be lowered to stop people camping at it.
Featured Places
