vehicle time penalty.

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@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:

yo.

Since every one can be remote missile, i think having vehicle penalty is unfair.

What everyone can be and what everyone is are two different things.  

Another bugging thing that i have in bf is waiting. I freaking dodge them, good.

I have no idea what youre saying here.

But imo when i get 1 shotted

Get better at flying.  We had this discussion. Starting a new thread regurgitating the same thing doesnt make it true.  

or tbh tripple shotted, i see it unfair.

Teamwork is unfair?  The only way you can be triple shotted is if 3 people shoot you.  That isnt unfair, that is design.

Why? I'll send my 2 rockets and re-deploy, i can be hero again.

2 rockets, and unlimited ammo.   We went through this.  Move.  

EDIT: Waiting... is the problem. Theres almos no difference. A: I take sniper i pull headshot.

B: I take TV and 1 shot helo. What is the difference here??? Penalty.

Discuss.

Thx.

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There is a huge difference. 

1. A sniper shoots 1 bullet at a time. 
2. A Vehicle kills many at a time
3. A Vehicle has rockets, bombs, tonnage, oh did we say unlimited?
4. An Air vehicle can fly off the map and regenerate
5. TV only 1 hits bad pilots.

You dont see a difference because you dont want to see a difference.  You continually complain the same complaint and we have shown video that it is your skill level, not the game.    Get over it.  I suggest you start a portal game.   Password it so only you can play.  Practice flying before you load into a BF game.   Pick a ground target and learn to straif.  

Stop hovering to farm.

There should be a reservation system for vehicles.  I dislike this system where vehicle play is only possible for players willing to spend their game time camping the spawn menu.  I also dislike the idea of having teammates being useless competing with each other in the spawn menu.

It's just a bad mechanic.

The goal for the next BF game should be to find a solution for this spawn menu camping.

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@AngrySquid270 wrote:

There should be a reservation system for vehicles.  I dislike this system where vehicle play is only possible for players willing to spend their game time camping the spawn menu.  I also dislike the idea of having teammates being useless competing with each other in the spawn menu.

It's just a bad mechanic.

The goal for the next BF game should be to find a solution for this spawn menu camping.

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I agree, but I honestly can't think of a better solution that isn't just CoD's kill-streak [or equivalent] that if you perform well you can call in a vehicle. 

Because if you want to make it like old BF games, people just camped the runways/spawn locations, and then you had griefing by teammates who didn't get the vehicle, which leads to teamkilling/blocking/etc, or enemies just strafing/bombing the runways/spawn locations.

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@AngrySquid270 wrote:

There should be a reservation system for vehicles.  I dislike this system where vehicle play is only possible for players willing to spend their game time camping the spawn menu.  I also dislike the idea of having teammates being useless competing with each other in the spawn menu.

It's just a bad mechanic.

The goal for the next BF game should be to find a solution for this spawn menu camping.

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Creating a Queue system seems logical.  Something like

1. You can only select to be in the queue when youre not in a vehicle (So you cannot just put yourself in to be first and give others a chance)
2. So you queue up, get a tank, and are driving across the map, and you queue spawns and the tank is abandoned.  This would tick off tank pilots waiting, so If you queue, and get in another vehicle, you drop from the queue.
3. You can only queue for one vehicle at a time.
4. You have to queue for a specific vehicle.

The system should allow for others to get a chance, yet, if birds are falling from the sky, it should give a decent pilot rotation.

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@Anobix wrote:

Because if you want to make it like old BF games, people just camped the runways/spawn locations, and then you had griefing by teammates who didn't get the vehicle, which leads to teamkilling/blocking/etc, or enemies just strafing/bombing the runways/spawn locations.

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You could implement the old BF games spawn system and make it workable by having a hard barrier/fence (indestructible) around the airfield to prevent vehicles from entering and make it a first come first serve scenario.

Then add automatic AA over home bases that absolutely shreads enemy aircraft if they enter the zone.

Dude, there is no difference with 1 bullet hs vs 1 rocket that can be controlled and shot from inside. Difference is, there can be 30+ shooters and difference is time penalty.

Fly better and don't hoover. I fly bird and I fly great.

Because of bugs I wait and because of fair dodges I wait.

@Padding_Ur_Stats  my skill is great, Stop bringing this into conversation. If you are interested of my skill, join me and have a look, then talk about it, okay sir??? 

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@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:

Dude, there is no difference with 1 bullet hs vs 1 rocket that can be controlled and shot from inside. Difference is, there can be 30+ shooters and difference is time penalty.

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There is a world of difference between infantry dying to bullets versus a heli dying to a TV missile.  

Infantry have their set of pros/con's

Helis have their set of pros/con's.

They also have a set of similarities.

Because infantry and heli's are vulnerable to OHK does not mean heli pilots should be able to trade in one of their heli con's for an infantry pro.  

Also infantry has penalties for dying beyond just the spawn timer.  If I die as an infantry while attacking an objective then I still need to spend X seconds of downtime hiking back to that objective for another push. 

If I kill an infantry player I can expect that I won't be seeing that player again for quite some time.

If I kill a heli with this proposed spawn timer removal the I could expect to see that heli again before the wreckage of the first heli even hit the ground.

X seconds and you are back in action. No matter if you spawn far away. Kinda your choice since theres transporters that fly around the map all the time.

But again, helos can be downed way faster and better than before, timer should be 2x shorter imo. + adding when newbye takes one and crashes it makes almost 5 mins of wait time. 

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@AngrySquid270 wrote:

There should be a reservation system for vehicles.  I dislike this system where vehicle play is only possible for players willing to spend their game time camping the spawn menu.  I also dislike the idea of having teammates being useless competing with each other in the spawn menu.

It's just a bad mechanic.

The goal for the next BF game should be to find a solution for this spawn menu camping.

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I gave up on tank play pretty much immediately, 42 system is hot junk.

BF4 had it pretty good and you could get a pretty decent flow going if you wanted to play tank. 

also, BF4 had a nice mechanic that vehicles spawned at  flags, so controlling those flags had more priority. 

The whole call in system just makes vehicle play a load of garbage imho. call-in for quads, maybe jeeps is ok.

If you want to play jets or tanks and get a whole flow going, then you need to be able to secure those vehicles after death.

Trying to make it fair by adding in some stupid timer actually just makes it terrible flow for people that want to play vehicles rather than infantry. 

Just another reason I deleted 42, and am praying they fix this rubbish.