@Straatford87 @PartWeIsh @T0TALfps In March, DICE said that they would return in a couple of weeks to start the next “feedback loop” focusing on specialists. It’s now the middle of April and nothing has happened yet. Recently a dev stated on Twitter that specialists would be reworked but not removed, even though an overwhelming majority of the Battlefield community (including myself) feel that they absolutely need to be removed from the game. Right now I feel like EA/DICE is trying to skip out on publishing this feedback loop so that they can keep ignoring us and continue their trend of radio silence. Is there any news on when the next feedback loop will start?

@XD-DAWG11 wrote:I guess they might have just cancelled it altogether since they already decided what they want to do with specialists while completely ignoring the players. There’s not much of a point to the feedback loop they promised if their minds are already made upHonestly, that "Feedback Loop" is just another silly gimmick from EA/DICE's side to try and keep your silly mind busy with something totally meaningless.Try and reflect a bit about reality. What is it that a single new post on this forum should add or change? What would that bring of new revelations or feedback that EA/DICE didn't already get in plentiful volume from us their customers/player community already?Matter of fact we have posted very clear feedback on this game design even from before they launched the Technical Playtest to us!And more players got involved also then from the closed beta and then the open beta.The feedback and judgement from the player community was loud and clear from day1 back in November 2021!Just look at this forum alone.We have created more than 7,500 topics about general feedback/discussions.We have created around 1,000 topics about the Specialists alone!So what is it the kind of feedback that EA/DICE claim that they didn't get already? And why do they think that if they start one new thread on this topic that this would reveal something new that they didn't know about from us already since November/December???We have created around 2,000 topics about the maps alone!Again I ask, so what is it the kind of feedback that EA/DICE claim that they didn't get already from us? And why do they think that if they start one new thread on this topic that this would reveal something new that they didn't know about already since November/December???To me this "Feedback Loop" is simply just a silly occupational therapy to keep the minions busy in the madhouse.EA/DICE have all the feedback already.Especially more so, as its just another ordinary CM person starting this (no punt intended to this poor pawn in their circus) and we see no real EA/DICE authority stepping this up to be anything meaningful from their game design/development team. There is no dialog. There is no tangible action taken on it as consequence. If EA/DICE had been serious, then they have had all this feedback to take action on since November.Instead, we are getting drip-fed silly stuff like a beanie and a cowboy hat.And we witness yet one more chapter in the EA/DICE's Dog & Pony show, where there is no tangible substance coming out of it.Think we had enough of it.

@vroenis people are not going to come back until there is new content, they have easier access to play in the servers they want to play in, and/or when they add back in basic platoon and squad management functionality. All of this should have been in the game on Day 1.I don't think the Server Browser is going to unmask some hidden secrets about player population. They literally have not even mentioned it since launch and I don't think they intend to add one, which is game breaking for a lot of players.

@CantGetRight I really hope you’re right, but DICE has been taking way too long to get things out lately

I guess they might have just cancelled it altogether since they already decided what they want to do with specialists while completely ignoring the players. There’s not much of a point to the feedback loop they promised if their minds are already made up

Feedback Loop should be about the MM and bring back server browser so people like me can get into a game as I have not since Dec 3rd. With the next update next week, still will not be able to play until I can get on a server that is in my region and ping as the player count is too low in my region (Northern Canada) for the MM servers to be up and running.

When is the next “feedback loop”?

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LeoElmer
4 years ago
@frekwalda1
Mach Making was part of the business pitch for Battlefield 2042, most likely is a hard no no to touch it, not because of technical problems, but monetary ones.

Even if they know that it would not affect the cost to maintain the game, most likely they would need to have a lot of meetings with the higher ups to be allowed to make any change.
harley31688
4 years ago
@XD-DAWG11 You seem surprised that their is a delay/nothing.
We have had 6 months of this.
vroenis
4 years ago
Apologies if it's been mentioned already, but I have a sinking feeling the reason the Server Browser hasn't been implemented (or for all we know, just switched on - Portal has a browser) is because then we'll get actual hard data on the player population.
I know we're all just making guesses because that's all we've been left to do, but it makes a daunting kind of sense that management wants to deploy patches first with the intention of rebuilding the player base to a healthy population - some poor soul's KPI no doubt - & then open up browser.
Honestly this whole dev cycle feels off, I can't imagine what it must be like to be a junior or core staff on this project.
XD-DAWG11
4 years ago
@harley31688 I wouldn’t really say surprised, more like “incredibly frustrated at DICE’s sheer incompetence”
RMEChief
Legend
4 years ago
@vroenis people are not going to come back until there is new content, they have easier access to play in the servers they want to play in, and/or when they add back in basic platoon and squad management functionality. All of this should have been in the game on Day 1.

I don't think the Server Browser is going to unmask some hidden secrets about player population. They literally have not even mentioned it since launch and I don't think they intend to add one, which is game breaking for a lot of players.
vroenis
4 years ago
@Adamonicoh 100% I agree with you, but unfortunately I don't think this project is being managed transparently or rationally. It really is a very corporate thing for management to say "we must never reveal our player data" - you're dead right, it won't surprise anyone.

And agreed, too, that content is the only thing that will bring players back - the two have to go hand-in-hand though which I think we're all feeling. We need visibility of healthy servers - in our region if we have them - and be able to stay in a server without geting re-match-made after every round. Imagine new content being launched only to have to keep getting match-made into Hourglass over and over again.
RayD_O1
Hero
4 years ago
@vroenis wrote:
@Adamonicoh 100% I agree with you, but unfortunately I don't think this project is being managed transparently or rationally. It really is a very corporate thing for management to say "we must never reveal our player data" - you're dead right, it won't surprise anyone.

And agreed, too, that content is the only thing that will bring players back - the two have to go hand-in-hand though which I think we're all feeling. We need visibility of healthy servers - in our region if we have then - and be able to stay in a server without geting re-match-made after every round. Imagine new content being launched only to have to keep getting match-made into Hourglass over and over again.
As you rightly point out even if they do introduce new content MM will continue to make sure we can't play any new maps, sad but true.
GrizzGolf
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@CantGetRight wrote:
I am assuming after the patch next week they will start the specialist feedback loop here.
I think you are correct!

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