I don't understand on why DICE is so adamant on alienating the PvE players. That SEED video you posted almost 4 years ago flaunted on how you guys are spearheading this amazing self learning AI and that the next battlefield games will give PvE players the same experience as PvP players but basic things like flying planes or driving hovercrafts is something the AI can't even do in this game. Then you remove ribbons and the ability to play with 127 AI from players and now we can't even get the weekly rewards? Are you serious? Why not increase the number for PvE players at least? Have it so it's 30 marksman kills for MP and say, 60 for PvE. Even call of duty gives battlepass and challenge rewards for PvE! Ex: get 10 kills in mp or 50 kills in zombies. I was on the fence about getting the year 1 pass but it's clear none of the stuff coming out will be relevant for PvE players right? It's seriously insulting to bait pve players into getting this game only to leave them hanging. I knew there had to be a caveat when you said there was gonna be AI on this, you bait and switched pve players in star wars battlefront 2 as well and I should've known.

@FeatherTickles Actually the Coop mode in Star Wars Battlefront 2 does have Full Progression.Its still 1000 times better than this game ended up.

@Trokey66 If Dice where giving away their Christmas bonuses for the first player to wrack up a 1000 kills then fair enough, that is something to be earned.This is for a naff looking skin.I didn't go near the PvE and even I think just let them have the unlocks. It's a naff reward for coughing up the cash to play a game. This isn't going on anyones CV, so what does a poxy skin matter whether you play PvP or PvE?If I unlock it through PvP it's because I enjoy playing PvP, the skin is just a bonus not a reason to play Battlefield. Same for anyone who prefers PvE, one group isn't better than the other, keep the rewards the same for both.

@loveubf They should’ve admitted it was half baked instead of leading people on. It’s EA after all, it’s half my fault for thinking they give a rat’s *

@Trokey66"1200 kills and would take less than 12 rounds of Breakthrough to achieve" - if you play the game in a natural or pure way as it is intended then no, it would take much longer than what you claim....but if you're farming yes, that's correct."Players abused the system and DICE took steps to prevent such abuse, it really is that simple." - I'm afraid it's not that simple.You see, when DICE "took steps" they actually broke a good portion of the game's content unlocking system for a good chunk of players. Now of course players who are mostly interested in playing PvP are largely unaffected by this. But those who are focused on mainly playing PvE are affected in a huge way.This IS a PvE game, lets not forget that fact, and to discount PvE players is what has been happening."I disagree that that the easy route should gain 'reward' at a similar rate to the 'harder' route especially when it comes to the likes of weekly missions etc." - you are very welcome to disagree, of course......but the terms "easy/hard" are completely relative to the player, his physical and mental ability as related to his age and medical condition, his skill level, the amount of time he spends playing, how he prefers to play the game in which mode/s, who he plays with, and also the bot difficulty settings.So, what you are suggesting is that just because you think a player is having an easier time of it than you are, that they should be discriminated against? In fact, they may be having a much more difficult time than you are.That is a double standard, my friend, and then we can turn that around on you very quickly. For example...we can state that playing PvE is the high road to take since it is a more emotionally stable and a healthier way to play with your friends (instead of beating them up and being rewarded for killing them in-game) and therefore should be more highly praised and rewarded and so the game should actually be rewarding PvE players more handsomely than PvP'ers.So, you're opinion may not necessarily be based on the reality of the situation, lets keep that in mind.Let's also not forget that one day you, and other PvP'ers, will likely be in our position and wish to mostly play PvE at some later point in your lives...and how are you going to really feel then? Well, if you get treated the way we have been then at the very least you'll likely feel a bit left out and discounted, if you're being honest about it.

@Trokey66 I do understand, and I want more than just the weeklies to be available for solo play; I want *everything* to be available for PvE players.

Why can't I do weekly missions solo?

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Jesse165
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@FeatherTickles Actually the Coop mode in Star Wars Battlefront 2 does have Full Progression.

Its still 1000 times better than this game ended up.
FeatherTickles
4 years ago
@Jesse165 bf2 solo players cant play crait large or bespin, cant use AT ATs, LAAT transport ships, N1 naboo fighters, those crait land hovers, fly starfighters on supremacy or play any of the MP modes. It was barebones and extremely disappointing. But yes, it at least had progression.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@FeatherTickles Even BFV had progression in Co-op
loveubf
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@FeatherTickles This is half baked pve, go play other games, not worth your time.
FeatherTickles
4 years ago
@loveubf They should’ve admitted it was half baked instead of leading people on. It’s EA after all, it’s half my fault for thinking they give a rat’s *
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@FeatherTickles Because it would be ridiculously easy to do?
xM0T10NMANx
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 That's why for PVE you would raise the amount needed vs those in PVP. The OP already mentioned this when he brought up how in CoD they may require for example 10 PVP kills but then 50 PVE kills.
CountSero
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
in the old games there were also assignments that you are forced to play different map packs, weapons, modes or vehicles so such things aren’t new to BF
But yeah, forcing player do play specific weapons, vehicles, modes and so on is not the best thing.
But I think this one is really an easy and I’m only an average player. I needed 3 rounds for the defuses and shotgun kills
So, GL and See you on the Battlefield
Female_Sniper_8
4 years ago
I also made a post about this....

For me it is more about my pc specs not being good enough to actually play online multiplayer with 130 players, because I get 30 or less fps compared to the 50 in solo/coop, and a whole lot of rubberbanding so that the shots don't actually register every time. And yeah, I don't have enough money to buy a whole new computer just to play online in this game, was really happy that they had added solo/coop, and it even adds quite a challenge, unlike previous solo and coop in BF games.

I really do hope DICE can at least consider this for all of us who enjoy solo/coop or feel trapped with playing only solo/coop.
They don't seem to care much about us right now.
ThorneAbrams
4 years ago
I understand what you mean and am sorry to say that but hopefully they will not consider that.
I dont know what PC you have but put your settings to low and play with a lower Screen Resolution.
It doesnt matter how much they raise the amount of kills or whatever you need to get this in PVE is much easier to get.
If you play Kalaidoskop you can easily make 400 kills and 150 revives in one round and.
BF had and probably will always have an focus on Multiplayer. If you would like to play with less player than use the mode "rush", in which you just have 32 Player. And yes you will get more points there than in every other official mode
And no, i dont like the 128 mode but just because DICE didnt optimized the map design for so many player.