I don't quite understand why the last update changed it so Irish could no longer counter C5, since it is not exactly fun to die from C5 being thrown into close-quarter infantry engagements.Especially since it demotivates players to counter explosive spam with him and revive teammates.And on another note I think it would be fair and actually motivate Irish players to get 1 Scoreboard-Point (in the support-category same as heals, supplies and repairs) when countering an explosive with the APS.

@XXXSELVERXXXHonestly I wish this change was accompanied with further nerfs to the C5 throwing range so it is not used as a dynamite stick bundle.Plastic explosives are supposed to be pressed into getting stuck into a surface IRL instead of being tossed like an offensive/defensive handgrenade.

@XXXSELVERXXX I can see it either way. Honestly, a C5 isn't an active explosive until it goes off, unlike a rocket or whatever. But as a person that regularly played Irish as support for a buddy that drives vehicles you can bet I like it more when it would block it.

@XXXSELVERXXX APS is designed by its own nature to counter - Projectiles like rockets, missiles. not hand thrown devices like grenades and explosives. why it even intercepts hand thrown grenades is beyond me. but this is BF, it bears about a 5% relation to actual combat environments.So *shrugs*

@AOD_CapStar362 If you throw a grenade over it sure, but if you throw it just short, it’ll kill the APS. C5 could work the same way.

@ATFGunr i get that - however, APS at its core was designed to defeat projectiles - using RL applications.it was never designed for hand thrown munitions or explosives and actually relied on the velocity of a incoming projectile to even be triggered.hence the throwing of the 5% of realism in BF.

Why nerf Irish APS against C5 (explosive spam) and Scoreboard-Idea

15 Replies

Anobix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@XXXSELVERXXX I can see it either way. Honestly, a C5 isn't an active explosive until it goes off, unlike a rocket or whatever. But as a person that regularly played Irish as support for a buddy that drives vehicles you can bet I like it more when it would block it.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
@XXXSELVERXXXHonestly I wish this change was accompanied with further nerfs to the C5 throwing range so it is not used as a dynamite stick bundle.
Plastic explosives are supposed to be pressed into getting stuck into a surface IRL instead of being tossed like an offensive/defensive handgrenade.
AOD_CapStar362
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@XXXSELVERXXX APS is designed by its own nature to counter - Projectiles like rockets, missiles. not hand thrown devices like grenades and explosives. why it even intercepts hand thrown grenades is beyond me. but this is BF, it bears about a 5% relation to actual combat environments.

So *shrugs*
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@AOD_CapStar362 If you throw a grenade over it sure, but if you throw it just short, it’ll kill the APS. C5 could work the same way.
AOD_CapStar362
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ATFGunr i get that - however, APS at its core was designed to defeat projectiles - using RL applications.

it was never designed for hand thrown munitions or explosives and actually relied on the velocity of a incoming projectile to even be triggered.

hence the throwing of the 5% of realism in BF.
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@AOD_CapStar362 Having played against bots in SMG Rush lol, thank goodness it worked against grenades! Those bots would just spam nades without any cool down. Was fun and crazy at the same time.
DPsx7
3 years ago
C5 for all classes please.
Psubond
3 years ago
@XXXSELVERXXX making one explosive counter with irish count as one point on the scoreboard would obliterate any points gained from capping flags. i do not support doing that. i have had games that my APS shot down hundreds of projectiles
JediMastaWyn
3 years ago
Maybe as a balance they can tone down the Olympic shot put C5
XXXSELVERXXX
3 years ago
@Anobix wrote:
@XXXSELVERXXXI can see it either way. Honestly, a C5 isn't an active explosive until it goes off, unlike a rocket or whatever. But as a person that regularly played Irish as support for a buddy that drives vehicles you can bet I like it more when it would block it.
Yeah I feel you, it also helps with vehicle support. Having it thrown into your APS in close quarters to then again get shredded to pieces by explosive spam is pretty rough though ^.^'