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@DominickB3 wrote:
@VBALL_MVPMy only issue is, why does it matter if people waste their time doing that? It doesn't make them any better, the challenges in this game are not difficult just time consuming. Does anyone at this point really brag about their rank or mastery as a way to feel better in this game? They have lost so many players, they may as well open everything back up. It might increase the player base again even if it leads to farming.
So if it doesn't matter so much about progressing, why you complaining about it?
Here is why it matters: since progression unlocks guns, people can have all the top guns and attachments ahead of everyone else. We saw that with people melting the competition using better unlocked guns on day 2 when others are still trying to grind it out. What a great way to keep the player base.
I am complaining because I paid for the game the same as everyone else. Why should my progression be limited in the official AoW mode just because some people decided to farm?
- 4 years ago
@DominickB3 wrote:
@VBALL_MVPWhat player base? The game has already lost like 70 percent of it. Besides it's not that hard to unlock attachments. And it's more of a balance issue in the game if the higher unlock guns are much better than the initial guns.
I am complaining because I paid for the game the same as everyone else. Why should my progression be limited in the official AoW mode just because some people decided to farm?Well you can always play the normal game where you can progress properly.
Lost 70% of the player base? Based on what facts? Steam? Just remember Steam only represents a portion of the player base, unless you have the console numbers (that no one else has) that number is just made up.
There are other ways to level up, allowing people to farm and boost just leads to other complaints of unfairness do to exploits or people complaining they maxed out already and there is no more content. So what do you say to those? Too bad for them? If so basically you are saying "what matters is what is only good for me".
There are other ways to progress, if you choose to do them.
- DominickB34 years agoSeasoned Ace
@VBALL_MVPAs of right now, the only way to progress in this game is to play the official AoW multiplayer or featured portal playlists.
You can't play solo/co-op and get full progression even in the official game mode. You can't progress weapons or vehicles or operators at all in custom portal mode including the one posted by the official battlefield twitter.
I just don't understand why you are so against people getting xp just for playing the game. Yeah they shouldn't allow xp farming, so come up with restrictions based on things like AI Difficulty and health modifiers. It's things the community has suggested from day 1 that they just ignore and instead handcuff and destroy a whole game mode because of it.We can safely assume the player drop on steam lines up with the player drop across all platforms. The player numbers are much higher than just the steam numbers, but the percentages most likely are the same.
- 4 years ago
@DominickB3 wrote:
I just don't understand why you are so against people getting xp just for playing the game. Yeah they shouldn't allow xp farming, so come up with restrictionsThats what they did, they put a cap on how much XP you can earn in a given time. It is not that you can't earn any, its just cap per minute.
Also you can't assume that Steam numbers are the same elsewhere, BF1 and BF4 are proof that console population stayed more consistent while PC dropped.
- 4 years ago
@DominickB3 wrote:
@VBALL_MVPWhat player base? The game has already lost like 70 percent of it. Besides it's not that hard to unlock attachments. And it's more of a balance issue in the game if the higher unlock guns are much better than the initial guns.
I am complaining because I paid for the game the same as everyone else. Why should my progression be limited in the official AoW mode just because some people decided to farm?I don't use twitter so I had no idea they promoted custom Portal modes, but I have played a ton of portal.
I have had all attachments unlocked for all weapons for a long time, so I really have no reason to play AOW over Portal anymore unless I just feel like playing AOW. (I was still playing portal regularly before unlocking it all to)
As someone else said already, some people just play to have fun and doesn't care about grinding for exp or unlocks.- WelshWilks4 years agoNew Scout
EA and Dice need to shout about Portal mode louder. There are many people whining about having the Battlefield they want but it's right there in Portal. I'm sure most people complain without switching the game on. The mode is clearly visible from the main menu.
- Spidder814 years agoSeasoned Ace
One of the main reasons I bought this game was because of custon portal. But I (and many 1000s others) havent touched it for a while because of the restrictions. They killed this mode after 1 day.
I dont even blame the players with the xp farms. Dice knew that xp farms could be a problem since July 2021 and said there would be measures etc in place. Obviously they lied or forgot to implement them and instead handed the xp farmers everything on a silver platter to do what they want.
Now because of Dice's laziness or incompetence (which doesnt surprise me) custom portal and solo/coop has to suffer with restrictions, instead of being how it was on release day and how it was intended, and why 1000s of people bought the game in the first place.
With the just how bad the game is doing and the painfully low dwindling player base they should just take off all restrictions, and all they need to do is put an xp block on AI that is put below 100% health when creating a custom portal, but apparently that is too much hard work for them
These implementations should have been in the portal creation page before release, and not an after thought when the xp farms were already in place.
- 4 years ago
@BizzyVaping wrote:I don't use twitter so I had no idea they promoted custom Portal modes, but I have played a ton of portal.
I have had all attachments unlocked for all weapons for a long time, so I really have no reason to play AOW over Portal anymore unless I just feel like playing AOW. (I was still playing portal regularly before unlocking it all to)
As someone else said already, some people just play to have fun and doesn't care about grinding for exp or unlocks.Which is fine, if they don't care about grinding for XP or unlocks, then why get mad about XP caps? It doesn't limit the gameplay at all.
I only play portal, I loved playing Rush and loved all the custom content. It's fun, I still get my weapons attachments and I still get xp to progress. It is not like you get nothing for playing it, you still get rewarded, to some it's never enough though and are trying to speak out of both sides of the mouth saying that people don't care about grinding and XP but yet complain there is an XP cap. It is like they are trying to cover the fact that they really want to be able to get boatloads of XP but instead taking the opportunity to just blame DICE for everything since that is currently the "in" thing to do.
The argument makes no sense, people don't want to play the main multiplayer and instead want to play custom modes to have more fun; boom DICE provided. In previous titles, you couldn't get XP or attachments in custom modes just due to the fact people were trying to shortcut ways to progress which made it unfair. DICE changed that, yet people abused it. DICE could have just shut it all off, but they didn't....they want people to play Portal, so they tried to keep farming from overtaking the community and still give XP and attachments for people playing it.
I believe if more people played Portal they would see all their complaints about classes, content, and maps are all moot because one has it all in Portal.
- 4 years ago
@BizzyVaping wrote:
@DominickB3 wrote:
@VBALL_MVPWhat player base? The game has already lost like 70 percent of it. Besides it's not that hard to unlock attachments. And it's more of a balance issue in the game if the higher unlock guns are much better than the initial guns.
I am complaining because I paid for the game the same as everyone else. Why should my progression be limited in the official AoW mode just because some people decided to farm?I don't use twitter so I had no idea they promoted custom Portal modes, but I have played a ton of portal.
I have had all attachments unlocked for all weapons for a long time, so I really have no reason to play AOW over Portal anymore unless I just feel like playing AOW. (I was still playing portal regularly before unlocking it all to)
As someone else said already, some people just play to have fun and doesn't care about grinding for exp or unlocks.you're supposed to be on social media so you can get upset and post how upset you are. you're not supposed to play games to have fun. you're supposed to grind your BF homework like a good boy. Shame on you. 😉
- 4 years ago@babypants1 that seems to be the new generational attitude nowadays. I guess I am just getting to old to be in that cool club.