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SloppyTacoMMM
Rising Novice
3 months ago

CFT and TN spikes

Hey all, 

Firstly, I've had this issue for years and I cannot seem to resolve it. 

Every couple minutes during gameplay I get random CFT and TN spikes (see attached pics) which always screw me up. A second later, gameplay goes back to normal. During the spike, I see CPU and GPU utilisation dip in MSI Afterburner. 

My specs are:

  • 14700k
  • 64gb DDR5
  • RTX5080 (originally 3080ti)
  • NVME SSD
  • 750mb/s internet connection on ethernet  
  • ... Resource constraints aren't the issue. 

 

I don't have this issue in any other game.  I never had issues when I first started playing the game on release. It maybe popped up a year later. 

What I've tried:

  • Disabling C-states
  • Disabling one drive sync
  • Different USB ports for K&M
  • Different K&M
  • Mouse raw input vs not
  • Closing all non-essential applications/services
  • Reinstalling and repairing easy anti cheat
  • Reinstalling BF2042
  • Cleared cache
  • Reformatting computer - clean install everything 
  • Upgrading bios
  • Clean boot with most windows apps disabled
  • Disabling all overlays
  • Deleting IGO32.dll & IGO64.dll 
  • Running as administrator 
  • Lowered graphics settings/lighting/reflex/frame rate cap/

 

There doesn't seem to be a way to contact EA support. I've tried asking Reddit and got no help there. Maybe someone can help me here? 

19 Replies

  • I thought I had it fixed. I noticed that whenever the lag was happening, two cores would swap states with each other, from parked to active. Every single time.. smoking gun!! I found a way to disable parking in the registry, butttt I it didn't fix the issue. 

    I got some lag quickly into a new round and the only thing I could see at the time of the lag was a quick dip and spike on 2/28 cores. All other cores looked fine. GPU usage dipped at the same time too. 

     

    There seems to be some sporadic down clocking on some of the cores, but not at the exact time that the lag happened. 

    Image of cores swapping when parking is enabled (default):

     

  • OskooI_007's avatar
    OskooI_007
    Seasoned Ace
    3 months ago

    If a core is spiking the next step is to figure out what's causing it. App, driver, CPU frequency downclocking.

    I would start by watching the CPU frequency in Task Manager to see if it's being downclocked to a lower frequency due to power saving settings.

  • SloppyTacoMMM's avatar
    SloppyTacoMMM
    Rising Novice
    3 months ago

    Thanks for the response! 

    If a core is spiking, what would be my next step?

  • OskooI_007's avatar
    OskooI_007
    Seasoned Ace
    3 months ago

    I watched the video and there's a large CPU spike of what appears to be 345ms.

    The next thing to look at is if any of the CPU cores are reaching 100% usage in Windows Task Manager. It line graphs all of the CPU cores which will show if any are hitting 100% usage, which I suspect one of the cores is hitting 100% usage.

    To see if any CPU cores are hitting 100% usage in Windows Task Manager.

    • Run the game in windowed mode (alt + enter)
    • Open Task Manager (alt + ctrl + del)
    • Set Task Manager to 'always on top' by clicking option
       

    Now you can play the game and monitor CPU usage per CPU core. If any CPU core hits 100% usage the game will stutter. This is important because it only takes one CPU core hitting 100% usage to cause the game to stutter.

    To see CPU usage per core in Windows Task Manager, open the Performance tab, then right-click on the CPU graph and choose "Change graph to > Logical processors".

  • Do a google search of "msi afterburner problems" or similar, and you will see many people have problems with this program. 

    Also, Windows update can have the same effect. Or perhaps another program updating or running in the back ground. I know you said that you shut them all off, but did you ? .

    Your pc specs say you should have no problem playing this game, so something running momentarily from it or too it would evidently be the problem.

  • OskooI_007's avatar
    OskooI_007
    Seasoned Ace
    3 months ago

    Posting a screenshot of PerfOverlay.DrawGraph right after the stutter occurs will help us with troubleshooting. Even better would be posting a video of the stutter with all the graphs onscreen.

  • SloppyTacoMMM's avatar
    SloppyTacoMMM
    Rising Novice
    3 months ago

    Enabling the graphs and fps doesn't show anything new. 

    I tracked all cores in MSI Afterburner and it shows a dip when I get the stutter. 

    I looked up what the blue line is on the LAT/ALAT graph and it's TN - Time nudge. I changed DNS and tried on WIFI over ethernet, still have the same issue. 

    Unlikely that it's a network issue given I don't have this issue on any other game. 

  • The red circle on the right in your screenshot shows the client frametime (CFT) spiking up to 16ms. This means your PC's framerate is spiking up to 62fps during the spike. (1,000ms ÷ 16ms = 62fps)

    I'm not sure what the blue line is for in the red circle on the left. The blue line appears to be for packet loss out. If that's the case then your PC also stops sending network packets to the server at the same time the 62fps CFT spike is occuring. Your PC appears to be momentarily freezing/stuttering during the spike.

    Here's a post where I helped a forum member troubleshoot PC stutter. These console commands will help with further troubleshooting.

    PerfOverlay.DrawGraph 1
    PerfOverlay.DrawFps 1

    Note the posts about monitoring individual CPU core usage with Windows Task Manager. It only takes a single CPU core reaching 100% usage to freeze/stutter the game. Windows Task Manager must be configured to show individual CPU core usage. Instructions on how to do all this are in the link below.

    Intermittent micro-stuttering on on all screens main menu and in game. | EA Forums - 12155692

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