Assault Shotgun needs a nerf

I'm no fan of the shotgun but I think rather then nerfing, they should increase the spread area instead that way it'll decrease its range.

Leave the shotgun alone

Dude, at one point in time I spent like 6 hours in Battlefield 3 just shooting the M870 at walls at different distances to pattern that thing and use it to kill people outside its standard combat range. Got me banned from like 4 servers in 2 hours for it. xD

Yep. I been 1 shot killed by shotgun at insane ranges but at the same time I like how lethal it is so instead I would prefer its spread to be increased rather then being nerf cause other weapons can't match it at all

I'd like to see the spread increased so it stays effective close but isn't nearly as strong in medium ranges. Yesterday I had enough getting 1 shotted, so I exclusively used the shotgun for the remainder of the day and was in the top 3 of every match with it. I don't think it needs to be a huge spread increase, so long as they tighten the bloom on ARs, as right now the shotgun is too often a 1 shot at 15-20m and is a 2 shot 15-25m. If you fight ARs at 20m, you'll win 8 out of 10 (or at least I have been) with the shotgun, which is just wrong. I was grouped up with a friend and made the joke to him that the shotgun was the best sniper in the game. That obviously was an exaggeration but I could consistently beat ARs at medium.  

So... within an extra 5 meters you want an additional round of drop off? Do you know why Shotguns have as much damage as they do? 

It's because it is launching nine - NINE (9) .33in OR for those of you whose countries haven't landed on the moon 8.4mm (8.389mm if technical) pellets made of lead, copper, steel, bismuth, or tungsten. Flying at between approx 1150-1350fps. That is essentially the same thing as taking 9 simultaneous hits from the P18(M18/Sig P320) 9x19mm pistol. Which also flies between 1150-1350 fps 

Magpul Dynamics Shotgun Zeroing (15yd/5m)

Those 3 big holes are the wad, the cup, and the shot separating.

Magpul Dynamics Shotgun (Patterning)

If anything, You should be asking dice to reduce the cone fire on rifles/carbine/dmr and pistols. 

It's honestly a matter of math. How many shots do you need to kill someone with the pistol? 4 at 0-5m, 5 at 6-25m

P18 Stats Effects Damage 25 - 12 25 (0-5m) 20 (6-25m) 17 (26-50m) 14 (51-69m) 12 (>70m) Multipliers 1.35x Head 1.0x Chest 1.0x Legs Time to kill N/A Bullets to kill 4 - 8+ 4 (0-5m) 5 (6-25m)

P18 In game stats

M87A1 Shotgun base stats.  The base stats are 160 dmg per shell. Let's do some math. 1 shell(round) =9 pellets. So, if we divide 160/9= 17.7 per pellet at 0-5M.

What you all are begging for is essentially to neuter shotguns and make them worse than pistols. Why? Because you don't like getting thrown into a ceiling painting competition with Kurt Cobain at rock throwing distance? gitgud.

BTW: I was mostly using the M4A1 (25dmg/r(900rpm)), L110 (25dmg/r(710rpm)), and PW7A1 (16dmg/r(947rpm).

No.  shotguns are poweful as they should be.  They are balanced properly for the assault class. The gun recoils could be significantly higher on hip fire and maybe reduce movement speed on ads (to almost no stand still) with lower recoils. 

How would it be worse than a pistol if they can still one-shot even after a balance patch lol pistols cant one shot unless you maybe get a headshot off with a revolver (if they add a revolver)

I like a fast ttk as well, the game just needs a bit more weapon balancing I think

Theses so called vets started playing bf from 3-4 so they think they’re all that