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Sazabinitengale
Seasoned Novice
2 hours ago

What Happened? I thought DICE Was Serious About this...

Ya this is long, but it comes from a place of love, from a real BF fan. From BF2-BF4, I want this succeed, devs, please heed this.

Seriously, what happened here? The first weekend I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but now on weekend 2? This is going bad. I can feel some of the bones of the good BFs (pre BF1) but it's like they've chosen to shoot themselves in the food at every turn. The game went from a probably not, to a maybe, to a Hell no so far (announcement, beta 1, beta 2). 

"Rush": This "Rush" mode, isn't Rush, this is Trash. 12v12? That isn't Rush. Rush is 64-man large scale combat with huge maps, vehicles, and strategic gameplay. Why are the points so close together? Why are there only 12 people on each team? We are 40 players away from what we should be. 32 is still too small and the maps are too confined and small.  No, it was never an ARMA walking sim with huge maps, if you didn't have a vehicle it took a minute to hoof it, but it was never bad and made more play area for the enemy to sneak in on you. Stop trying to kill Rush! It was a fan favorite and I absolutely won't buy the game unless this is fixed, along with many others, it's the only mode we play. This is my deal breaker. 

Attachment point... points?: What's going on with this weapon attachment point system? Get rid of this garbage. If I have an open slot and want to use something, let me. I don't like all the items so I won't even always use every slot for every gun other than a default. Like the shotty, why would I gimp my shotty and make it 5 rounds instead of 8? The points system has got to go. This is a huge turn off.

Sliding. This isn't CoD, your core audience doesn't want this. Short, simple, to the point. Remove. This.

Factions: what's going on with the factions this time around? NATO? LMAO. And then you're trying to shove some mercenary BS down our throats again? Grow a pair and let us fight Russians, Americans, Chinese, UAE, etc... This gray blob A fighting gray blow B to not somehow offend anyone annoys us. I've never heard of 1 any of the Russian guys I played with or talked to hate that they are portrayed in this game. 

Languages: Why does everyone speak English? Why did we change that? The factions should speak a native language (brings up back to factions). I can't tell what team is what when I hear someone on the battlefield anymore. This used to be such an important clue to let you know who's near you. Sound in this game just isn't as important anymore as it once was and it really shows in these small ways. 

Pet Peeve: I know I'm going to catch flak for this one, but I hate hearing women moan and groan over the radio and yell out on the battlefield. It's so inauthentic and cringy and really breaks up the otherwise fine-ish gameplay thus far. I hate it. Give us a toggle switch or something buried in the menus to change it to all male voices or something. Hell, leave the way it is now with both voices by default, I'm not trying to get rid of the choice and I'll even happily change it myself manually. I know many people whom this rubs them the wrong way. While it's not the biggest deal, it's not helping right now with the other huge gripes.

ARs and DMRs: ARs are in a terrible state right now. They used to be great but now they're pretty horrible. This is something that can be changed pretty easily so not really mad about it, just pointing it out. I also used to love DMRs, but now it feels like I can't hit anything with them. I  have a ton of kills with them in BF3 & 4.

HE Munitions: Why do all of my explosives seem uber weak? If I don't nail the person directly they don't die, and that's a problem. If I'm within a few feet of a tank round exploding I should be flying through the air dead hoping that medic 5 picks me up because 1-4 already ran past me. Same with nades and rockets. The splash damage is so weak on these it's laughable. If you want 1 class to have a flak jacket so they can withstand a bit better, I get it, but they all just tank explosives. Easy fix. 

Balancing/Meta: Please don't keep trying to nerf guns, whether I buy this game or not, that's a terrible idea. If something is obviously broken (ala MASS when it was broken in BF4) then sure tweak it, but if something just kinda seems a bit OP, leave it alone. The players adapt and we don't need you futzing with the numbers constantly and breaking things. I play a ton of guns and never once chased a meta because I loved the games and wanted to try so many different things. 

Forced Game Modes: I fear that in the season passes, much like the beta, you'll try to force us to play game modes we don't want to. Don't shove objectives with specific game modes into the season pass, that would be a huge turn off for many people. As stated above, I love Rush, and Rush only. If I look into the pass and see other game modes, that means I'm not paying for a pass now because I'll never do it. You will leave money on the table this way. 

I really want to like this game. This was my favorite franchise prior to BF1 (this is where you started to chase CoD!) and it looks like you guys have really started to appear to listen. It looks Battlefield-y, it feels kinda like it, but then you've gone and sabotaged yourselves. Why are you doing these things? The players have told you LOUD AND CLEAR exactly what we want. Why are you not playing this safe? Why are you not going for the slam dunk we are literally trying to lay up for you? Everything I've said here comes from a place of deep love and utter alienation for, and from you over the years. I've watched you wreck my favorite franchise in the pursuit of a fictional audience. You're in dire straits right now, LISTEN TO US. This will be your last shot to get it right. If you fumble this, like you have as of beta 2, I don't think you'll survive. And my favorite franchise ever, will be dead. 

I hope this doesn't fall on deaf ears, it is by far the most earnest and sincere feedback I've ever given about a game. I want a BF again.

I may add more later.

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4 Replies

  • Queleb's avatar
    Queleb
    Seasoned Newcomer
    2 hours ago

    I agree with everything except for sliding and attachment points. I think both can be done correctly and still feel like Battlefield.
    The rest 100% agree. Lots of huge issues that compromise the identity of the game.

  • Sazabinitengale's avatar
    Sazabinitengale
    Seasoned Novice
    55 minutes ago

    If this was it, I'd be super OK with it. Mildly annoyed, but that's it. The attachment point system is stupid, we never needed it in good BF games, don't need it now. The slide is annoying but I really only see it with some tryhards but I'd like to see it gone because it really has no place here. 

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