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Sickler002's avatar
Sickler002
Newcomer
21 hours ago

Cannot Kill Aircraft

Something needs to be changed in game vs aircraft. One top player on an aircraft changes the course of the round and it is happening to often. A good pilot cannot be shot down even with a coordinate attempt to shoot them down. The flares refresh to quickly, many of the AA items cannot fire if they are low to the ground, the AA tank is absolutely awful, there are to many ravines or dips for them to fly into and the planes themselves are just as durable as a tank. 

My last several rounds when a pilot was dominating, i convinced my entire squad to go engineer with AA rockets. My entire squad could not take down some of these pilots. Even with timing our shots around flares. Even if one member of the squad was using the AA tank with the rest supporting him. Even more annoying my squad was not the only engineers with anti air rockets, we could see several other engineers launching. Despite all this attention, these pilots are still managing 40+ kills, eliminating all of our teams air, destroying all of our ground armor and ending the round with 0-3 deaths. 

This game should not be setup in a manner that 1-2 player, no matter how proficient can dominate a map of 60 people. 

16 Replies

  • hairy1611's avatar
    hairy1611
    Seasoned Traveler
    16 hours ago

    Could also add different real world stinger missile variants-proximity to get SOME damage when getting close enough. 

  • LordRaiden008's avatar
    LordRaiden008
    Newcomer
    16 hours ago

    mewmewwm Those are not AA weapons, they're anti-armor weapons. You shouldn't have to be "creative", the tools designed to do a single job should simply be sufficient at that single job. A TOW missile is an AA weapon in the same way a tank is a sniper. Sure, technically it can be used for that. I've landed tank shots on snipers at 700 meters before. That shouldn't be the expectation. Would it not be a problem if that was the only realistic way to combat snipers? That is the situation AA is facing now. AA is worse at its job than literally anything else. The .50cal tank turret is just as good an AA turret as the AA vehicle's main gun. That's not someone being "creative", that's the builder's hammer not being able to drive in the proverbial nail and forcing them to turn to a rock they found outside. 

  • hairy1611's avatar
    hairy1611
    Seasoned Traveler
    16 hours ago

    Good points. I feel like stingers were more effective during beta as well. 

  • mewmewwm's avatar
    mewmewwm
    New Novice
    10 hours ago

    LordRaiden008​ Sure they aren't AA weapons, but they're still anti-vehicle weapons. I didn't think it should matter what the name, label, or category weapon it is if it does a job just as or more effectively for the situation, then why not make use of it? I recognize this is not the case for jets, so I'm speaking purely with regards to helicopters.

    Handheld AAs are still fairly effective in a sense that a single shot often disables, if not kills, an attack helicopter. Lock-ons are enough to deter loitering by even a seasoned heli crew, while alternatively, forcing them to fly lower exposes them to more counter-platforms. There is nothing stopping an entire squad/multiple players from grabbing stingers and shutting out a helicopter. Both teams also typically have the same exact vehicle to counter the other's. Hence personally, this really seems like a skill/team issue.

    I think the AA platform just seem like poor performers since its alternatives are relatively more effective at killing vehicles in general, that doesn't mean AAs suck that bad. I mean, it literally takes no skill to point, lock, and shoot. If you can force a chopper to fly away despite not killing it, I'd say that's still good use of AA since you've still forced them out of the fight.

    Most players can hardly fly and survive in the choppers as is, it hardly makes sense to punish heli players in general by raising the skill ceiling through buffing their direct counters - you're effectively just trying to make things harder for average players in pursuit of punishing the 1%. 

  • AcidryzeN's avatar
    AcidryzeN
    Seasoned Veteran
    10 hours ago

    13 KD and still not able to figure out how to take out 2 jets and 1 heli. Okay mate.

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