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TheLoliAssassin
Seasoned Adventurer
2 months ago

Casual Breakthrough is *not* the actual answer to PVE fans

While some may enjoy it more than pure PVP, it is still ultimately a PVP mode, just with an incredibly limited map selection. This mode is clearly not supposed to be a mode anyone actually plays, it's a barely expanded version of Breakthrough Initiation to funnel people into actual PVP. 

About two weeks ago EA_Shepard​ posted in the steam forums saying that EA is listening to PVE players who wanted a more casual experience, if this is EA listening then EA is deaf. This is, at best, barely a half measure with minimum effort. At this point the single best solution EA could have would be to bring back Coop mode from 2042 the way it is now. Let us pick a map and mode grab up to 3 friends, and play with reduced XP, it's all a lot of us were doing with Portal anyways.

30 Replies

  • BigShottt's avatar
    BigShottt
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    Yes, a solo/coop mode with its own progression would be stellar for sure. I wish!

  • Anobix's avatar
    Anobix
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    I think that is a portion of my issue. They locked key progression of classes behind odd challenges. Like for example, I'm supposed to be purposefully missing targets with an LMG, but only against targets that are either spotted or already damaged and not currently healing in order to get any credit towards suppression. 

  • I am one who plays very, very casually (being of an older generation). I have enjoyed BF and COD titles over the years and spend 80% of my time playing on my own against bots where I can match the skill level to my own. I get no enjoyment out of getting my backside kicked by a dozen 12 year olds! With Black Ops 7 round the corner and free if on game pass, EA need to think very carefully about this, or many players will simply shift to the new title that will undoubtedly let players like me play as I want, as well of course as letting the hardcore gamers play as they want. It is all about offering a choice.

  • S3SSioN_SoL's avatar
    S3SSioN_SoL
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    The problem with separate progression is that it doesn't make any sense and you're effectively doubling the amount of time you'd need to play the game if you could only play against bots in lower player count regions. It's not a solution if it creates more problems.

    Instead of going through that entire hurdle they should just enable all the unlocks in Portal and PvE. I would be fine with that so long as I still get career XP and can level up my account.

  • Darken_CZ_89's avatar
    Darken_CZ_89
    Seasoned Novice
    2 months ago

    The EU and Brussels started to deal with EA through the XP scam and its portal. EA will have to pay damages, return changes or refund everyone's money regardless of platform. But those arrogant idiots think that won't happen. They are so arrogant that they don't understand that this is the whole EU vs one **bleep** homeless studio that only has investors.

  • y9la8lqqlg7o's avatar
    y9la8lqqlg7o
    Seasoned Rookie
    2 months ago

    The bots in casual breakthrough are ridiculous. They're too hard. Casual breakthrough essentially is to allows bad players like me to have fun by not playing against full time gamers. And the reflexes of these bots its not much better. Its supposed to be a good solution. Its not.

  • I played Caual for 2 hours.  I checked my number of kills on my profile.   And it not not progressed.  I understand bots don't count, but killing players doesn't count either.  No matter what your k/d drops because 0 kills count during casual

  • CableTongue's avatar
    CableTongue
    Seasoned Traveler
    20 days ago

    Dice's approach to lower-skilled players puts me in mind of when I first tried to play BF1 back in 2016. I had no idea how to play, and because of that I just got killed 40 times every match without learning anything at all. I was a bit better by the time BFV was released, but when I found out that BF2042 would finally have a CoD style player vs AI mode I was so happy, because I enjoy the idea of Battlefield but was fed up with having to deal with the kinds of players who have enough time (and, most likely, money, given the cost of decent gaming equipment) to 'get gud' dominating every single game. Imagine wanting to learn how to play pool and every single person at the pool hall is a pro player who has no time at all for 'noobs' and will only occasionally play against a new guy so that the pro can feel like a superstar. Until BF2042, that was the BF experience. 

    Now, so-called 'casual breakthrough' mode feels like nothing more than a half-arsed approach to a problem that could easily be fixed by simply adding the vs AI mode from the last (supposedly worse!) game. Also, who cares how a player levelled up their weapons and xp? They know if they did it against humans or the AI, so why should it matter? 

    It feels as if Dice are so obsessed with keeping their long-term hardcore fanbase happy that they've left the rest of us out in the sun. There's no way for new players to get used to the game, but that's ok because SkwibbleWibbleArse234 is spending 10 hours a day playing Conquest, right fellas?

  • CableTongue's avatar
    CableTongue
    Seasoned Traveler
    20 days ago

    I'm continuously getting level 100+ players in my 'casual' lobbies, so it always ends up being as intense as any standard mode. The only difference, so I can see, is that any kills I get don't count towards my K/D. I don't really care that much about K/D, but 'casual' mode shouldn't mean dying to the same human players every 10-12 seconds. I don't see why Dice can't just put the vs AI mode back in just like in BF2042 (and if the reason is because BF2042 didn't have a single player campaign, a vs AI mode would be far preferable to the tacked-on campaign in BF6). 

  • CableTongue's avatar
    CableTongue
    Seasoned Traveler
    20 days ago

    What we want is to not have to deal with the equivalent of being forced to play against the German soccer team when we've only got enough skill and time for a kick around on a Sunday afternoon. 

    Also, if you're 'da man' how come there are already 18 of them before you? Did you get sloppy 19ths? 

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