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sebass85's avatar
sebass85
New Traveler
10 hours ago

Subs OP

Sub machine guns are over powered. There is no way your gonna beat one with any other gun when you come into battle against one at mid to close range. I can be hold security on a doorway hear the guy running up have my finger on the trigger and they still win that battle.

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  • Yeah they put all the recoil and bloom on ARs. WTAF? It’s the direct  opposite of how AR and SMGs are handled in BF4. But that’s expected bc DICE always reinvents the wheel w each new game like Battlefield never existed. 

    SMGs are better at mid range with less recoil and the with same or higher damage than most ARs. Not to mention SMGs have  better ADS, less bloom and better handling. 

    Even a lot of Carbines have a higher  muzzle velocity than ARs. How? Most ARs have a longer barrel. Not to mention Carbines have better ADS, better  handling, less bloom than ARs. 

    ARs should have higher muzzle velocity that most Carbines and all SMGs. Longer barrel and larger rounds with more gun powder. 

    What exactly is the point of ARs? Other than to feed SMG and Carbine players Exp.. 

     

  • SpiritofGames's avatar
    SpiritofGames
    Rising Adventurer
    10 hours ago

    I mainly play Engineer and our weapon of choice Is the submachine gun, and, yes, they are very good ... but, overpowered? No, absolutely not. A Sniper Rifle can kill you instantly. An Assault Rifle can kill you in three hits. A Submachine Gun takes longer. So, by any standard, it is not an overpowered weapon.

    At midrange if any weapon is considered over overpowered it is the Assault Rifle. And I don't have a problem with that because the Assault Class are supposed to be Frontline Fighters and they need the weapons to back them up.

    In addition, it is not possible to deal with a long range sniper with a submachine gun or an assault rifle. They have you dead to rights. Long range attack is their domain.

    Also, at close range it's a toss up whether the assault rifle or submachine gun will kill you faster. They are both deadly and can hipfire very well.

  • Getting instant killed from SMGs (and ARs) from across the map is one of the reasons this game is not fun.

    I know EA wants to make the CoD streamers happy to get publicity, but it’s bad for the community.

     

  • SpiritofGames's avatar
    SpiritofGames
    Rising Adventurer
    10 hours ago

    Insta-killed across the map from SMGs and ARs?

    I'm sorry, you seem to be confusing sniper rifles with submachine guns and assault rifles.

  • sebass85's avatar
    sebass85
    New Traveler
    10 hours ago

    Yeah I sniper can kill you in one hit yeah a AR can kill you in 3 but all the good thay does when they have shot you 5 times with the sub before you even get a shot off

  • sebass85's avatar
    sebass85
    New Traveler
    9 hours ago

    He's not confusing anything i 95% get out shot at range with either me woth an AR or carbine. And the enemy with a sub

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