Re: 90%+ challenge battles (mostly unwinnable)

Just a small example of opposing forces 😨 in the attached picture...

The top players get dumped into Diamond just like people who fought hard to to make it into master or barely into Tiberium.  This means you're facing the best in a lot of your matches.  Thankfully, most of these will move up very quickly and within a week or two things should start to get a little more reasonable.

What I find a little crazy is the top player (already in Tiberium) is getting matched at least 50% with Diamond I opponents.  That feels a little broken.  He's getting way out ahead +8 medals at a time.

I just experienced another injustice. Being put up with unfair battle again. Bike vs bike but this time lvl9 against lvl 10. Still fine but 1 min into the game opponent can send 2-3 bikes to attack and then follow by another 2-3 more. I barely generate enough to buy 1-2. How to play like this ???? Even if I hv lvl11 bike, I still will lose to the quantity. I just dun understand how the game works. With this, I am even more determine not to spend on diamonds anymore until the EA folks fix this ridiculous setting. 

The hilarity of anyone trying to defend the matching system is beyond me.  You can perfectly counter every unit, but if you are at any level disadvantage you are toast.  Every time.

There is 3 issue here:

1. Unit level severely mismatch

2. Matching you against your unit combination most of the time. Meaning if you choose a scarab, they will match you with opponent that has a 2 tile attack capability or something like that. 

3. Matching you against opponent where their crystal growth is faster than you. 

I face the above 3 issue in most of my matches. Especially during event matches where you are about to get some wonderful goodies if you win. 

Today has been fun.  Twice I have gone on winning streaks of 4+ matches to put me within a win of the next tier, only to then lose about 10 matches straight all of a sudden.  One match just now I watched an opponent magically build Avatar after Avatar with no harvesters present on the field at all.  

There is so much shady * that goes on in this game, it's not even remotely close to being clean.

Don't even get me started on how the chem buggys are a total joke and need to be nerfed.

Here we go again with getting within a win of a new level only to be crushed in about 7 straight matches.  Classic EA *.

Lol, just beat a person two levels higher of a leader than me, that's only worth +16 XP apparently.  Don't worry though, every time you lose no matter what it's -20, challenge matches pretty much don't exist anymore.  It's like they've admitted they can't get the matching right so just screw everyone that hasn't paid a ton of money to get a team that can win more than 50% of the time.

Gotta love having the precise units you need to counter an initial swarm yet the game in so unbalanced you end up not even being able to get out of your base in under thirty seconds.  Joke game, joke developer, joke support.

Then there are the level 11 disrupters that have three shots equivalent to a nuclear missile.   What the * is with them being able to destroy my base all while I have a Centurion right next to them the whole time unable to destroy the unit?  

Horrible, horrible balance.  

New record: 10 out of 10 battles were challenge battles, coming up against people who have weapons only available from level 59 (I just reached 33 !!!)

I still don’t understand how this can be possible !!!

I made a post here, but for some reason it got deleted.

I will remake my post.

I think my idea can help.

What if, the Reset System is the problem?

I feel the Reset System isn’t taking into account Late Season Climbers vs. Early Season Climbers.

I think having the system Reset Players 2 Leagues back might be able to solve the issue.

I think many people including myself was able to reach Masters because it was at the end of the season.

Most of the high level players were in Tiberuim.

The reset moved than + us back to Diamond.

Than we face all these high levels which we really are not ready for.

My question is why is the game resetting players 1 league back?

What is stopping them from resetting people 2 leagues back instead?

If everyone got reset 2 leagues back, I don’t think there would be the same issue.

Another option would be to keep the Reset System the same, but add 2 new Leagues.

Diamond Cap is 11

Master Cap is 13

Tiberuim Cap is 15

There could be a League in between Diamond & Masters with a Cap of 12.

There could be a League in between Masters & Tiberuim with a Cap of 14.

This could be another way to approach it perhaps.

MY GOSH!!!!!!

20 straight losses out of 23 games.

If I would of known, I would of never reached Masters.

The 1 bullsh*t rare crate isn’t worth losing every single event in an entire month!

I’m not even upset.

I find this funny.

It is the funniest thing I ever seen.

What is the positive, we can take away from this?

I didn’t lose any rating points.

23 games - 23 challenge battles.

Resource Event started - Resources Event ended

Didn’t make a difference.

They could of had 50 battles as the limit.

I don’t even think I would of reached 5 wins. lol

It will get better peeps.

It can’t get any worse.

This is what rock bottom feels like.

There is only 1 way to go from here. lol

Oh, man

I’m losing to people who don’t know what they are doing.

The guy I faced was counter my Shock Troopers with Missile Squads.

And he was winning.

They were 3 lvl’s higher.

@EA_dance210Can you give some acknowledgement on these issues? A good matchmaker shouldn't put people down into a low 20s win rate, and it definitely feels broken. It would be nice to have some acknowledgement that the issue is being looked at by EA or Redwood.

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@weegee101 wrote:

@EA_dance210Can you give some acknowledgement on these issues? A good matchmaker shouldn't put people down into a low 20s win rate, and it definitely feels broken. It would be nice to have some acknowledgement that the issue is being looked at by EA or Redwood.

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I couldn’t agree more !! But in the end I have the feeling that we are only a minority complaining about this (nobody seems to be complaining on the App Store...) and that it will be difficult to get any true acknowledgement AND solution 🤬

scarab just one shotted my harv so i ion cannoned my base

Maybe we should just start voicing out in AppStore about how this game sucks in the matching area. Seriously I have been facing 1-2 levels higher for straight 15 battles. Imagine my lvl8 harvester against a level 10 harvester. Of course the opponent can produce more units to wipe out my harvester and hv even more units waiting at my base to destroy anything I produce. So back to the “how to play like this’ situation. EA folks, please have some sense and put an end to this. 

Resource Challenge : 3 win 7 lost. All are against 1-2 lvls higher. I discovered that battles in any of the event battles such as the resource challenge, the battles are much more brutal and the matching is almost always against much power opponent. Am base lvl8, all the resource challenge battle opponents are with units of at least lvl10 n above and opponent base are standard to lvl9 and 10 in ALL the battles. 

The game was the best game in the world in the beginning.

Everyone you faced was even levels or at worst 1 level higher.

I still believe the issue isn’t the match making system.

I think the issue is a combination of Time + Failed Reset System.

I reached Masters at the end of April.

At that “Time”, Everyone I faced had units even level or 1 level higher than me.

The game was balanced because all the good players were in Tiberuim.

The Level Caps didn’t have much meaning or relevance.

The Reset System than placed everyone 1 League back.

This is were the issue came!

We all reached Masters Premature.

Now we are stuck there facing the correct unit levels when we realistically belong in a League 2-3 Leagues behind.

The League Cap is 11.

We are facing all the 11’s.

We played to good and reached a point to soon.

They should change the Reset System.

Players have a Month to reach Tiberuim.

Every day a bounty wants you to play 10 games.

There is no reason for them not to reset players 2-3 Leagues behind.

It would mainly help players who find themselves in this position.

It would make the game more enjoyable for over achieving beginners + it would also give veteran players the ability to play on more Battle Field Maps.

Players complain about maps as well because they face the same Maps in high level.

If the Reset System Reset Players 2-3 Leagues back, Players would be given the opportunity to play on dozens of maps while climbing.

The solution I am saying kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

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@XPlayerJ wrote:

The game was the best game in the world in the beginning.

Everyone you faced was even levels or at worst 1 level higher.

I still believe the issue isn’t the match making system.

I think the issue is a combination of Time + Failed Reset System.

I reached Masters at the end of April.

At that “Time”, Everyone I faced had units even level or 1 level higher than me.

The game was balanced because all the good players were in Tiberuim.

The Level Caps didn’t have much meaning or relevance.

The Reset System than placed everyone 1 League back.

This is were the issue came!

We all reached Masters Premature.

Now we are stuck there facing the correct unit levels when we realistically belong in a League 2-3 Leagues behind.

The League Cap is 11.

We are facing all the 11’s.

We played to good and reached a point to soon.

They should change the Reset System.

Players have a Month to reach Tiberuim.

Every day a bounty wants you to play 10 games.

There is no reason for them not to reset players 2-3 Leagues behind.

It would mainly help players who find themselves in this position.

It would make the game more enjoyable for over achieving beginners + it would also give veteran players the ability to play on more Battle Field Maps.

Players complain about maps as well because they face the same Maps in high level.

If the Reset System Reset Players 2-3 Leagues back, Players would be given the opportunity to play on dozens of maps while climbing.

The solution I am saying kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

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I think your idea has merit.  I think the reset should be based on medal count entirely.  With a formula the sets people in master and lower back a few leagues and very good Tiberium players with high medal count would end up back in master 1-3.  Add more leagues if there isn't enough range to spread the players out a bit more.

Just met with another crazy opponent lvl 8. I am lvl9. But 3 seconds into the game, opponent jump jet came attacking my harvester. But the time I had enough to built a talon, opponent sent a sandstorm. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE ????? Seriously this rivals is one of the worse c&c game I ever played. The opponent is getting crazier by the week. I feel like cursing the ppl behind these.  I really do feel like cursing. 

Do you have a replay of this match that you can share?

Alternatively, can you send your PersonaID, and the date/time the match happened (including time zone), and we can investigate what happened? Your PersonaID is located in Settings - About.