@ChrisesCreation wrote:The majority of my units are lvl 7 & 8 the rest of them are low, like 3 - 5. I continue to get opponents with many level 10's that I can do nothing about.
By the time I can afford to build 2 units to try to take on their one, they already have far superior units on the board.
You have a win rate of 73% according to your screenshot. What the hell are you complaining about?
I think you are actually too good for the league you are in. You progressed faster than most so the only people in the league that you are in are those with units higher than yours.
You sometimes see people with units close to what you have but they are rare and in the same boat as you.
Seems like they should give me more credits to increase my units levels for being so much better.
I am level 21 I believe in platinum league.
It's my opinion that it's just bad progression design, which is related to the monetization scheme of an EA mobile game.
(Is skill the riding force, or is it grind/money?)
Generally in competitive games with a ranked play system in which the "account" progresses in actual playing capability, you want the act of progressing to feel like an extended tutorial to ease you into the game and get used to it without getting stomped all the time in matches.
It should also be designed so that players who are skilled can more quickly bypass this "extended tutorial" and not feel stuck in it.
This game has things like "races" and stuff but you can easily see the problem with their design and how getting in those top spots may not always be so feasible as it would imply if you are skilled(the case when you're well under leveled for the bracket you're adjusted for and have to wait for the content grind)
I agree, but even with the races you must spend actual money to have enough diamonds to acquire the credits to feasibly level the units.
I have placed 1st in a few of the races but did not have the 600 or more diamonds required to buy the credits earned. There are still quite a few too many issues with the game, I believe I will be quitting it again, figured by now they should have worked out a majority of these still occurring problems.
I just leave the match when I see that nonsense. But it really is stupid to have to play 16 Challenge Matches in a row, some against the same player multiple times. Pit all those level 10s against one another, instead of letting them seal club.
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@ChrisesCreation wrote:There are still quite a few too many issues with the game, I believe I will be quitting it again, figured by now they should have worked out a majority of these still occurring problems.
This is true. To be fair, the managament has apparently shifted resources away from this game, so that not enough developers are there to fix the many issues that exist.
I feel that if they fixed one thing, the game would become enormously better. That one thing is the quality of the matchmaking. In a game that has nothing else to offer but 1v1 PvP, the quality of the matchmaking should be really good. Instead, it is complete crap because they never developed a proper metric to rate the players.
So what is it you guys want? When you get promoted to Diamond league for example because you beat all the players at your level, you want to keep facing the same players from Platinum league that have your levels and not face any from Diamond league?
I thought I heard it all. When I get promoted to the Major leagues, I still want to face players from the Minor leagues. That is what you guys are saying.
I am not saying no challenge matches. But not a dozen in a row. If everyone I face has units 2 levels higher than me, why can’t they bash each other?
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@westcoastgrills wrote:I am not saying no challenge matches. But not a dozen in a row. If everyone I face has units 2 levels higher than me, why can’t they bash each other?
WG
There are a dozen in a row because there aren’t many people in your league with units or experience levels as low as yours as low as yours.
Here’s an example. I made it to Masters league one time with level 6 and 7 units. (I started a new account and just played all night for 2 nights in a row) There are hardly any players there with units that low. So every single game is a challenge match. Every single one. All of them. Why? Nobody is in Masters league with level 6 units. I was a Level 17 in experience going up against level 60 experience players.
If I was ever to find another player in that league with an experience level or unit levels as low as mine, it wouldn’t be a challenge match.
Now let’s say that you leveled up all your units to level 10 and made it up to Diamond league. You are stuck there for a while.
I make it up to Diamond league with level 7 units. Should I face you as a Challenge match or should I continue facing people from the lower Platinum league that have units levels the same as mine?
So let’s say that they match me up with people from a lower league. I beat them and make it out of Diamond league without ever facing anyone from Diamond league. Is that fair while you are still stuck in Diamond league?
@punishertrd wrote:
@Marine_CorporaIthe problem is across the board match making is jacked up and the devs are too lazy to fix it. Hell they create the bugs in the game in the first place let alone the meta. also i do think that they create bots in the game to "keep it alive"
How is it jacked up?
The reason I always defend the matchmaking is because I see how things work. I’m up to about 10 times climbing the ladder. I start over and go to Masters. When I get there, I start over again.
Each and every time the matchmaking is without challenge matches until I get to Gold 2. After that, challenge matches happen often since my units are so low compared to everyone else’s. Everyone there has their units at level 9’s while mine are at level 5’s and 6’s and I’m also facing people with higher experience and units that I cannot unlock yet.
There is a pool of players in every league. If most of them have level 11’ units and only you and 20 other people are a level 9 in the same league, you are more than likely going to face someone with a level 11 as a challenge match because not all the 20 players with level 9 units are online.
Your medal count plays a big role as well. If you are a good player with X amount of medals, you’ll get matched with players with the same amount of medals who just happen to have higher unit levels in the same league. They aren’t going to match you up with players from a lower league all the time.
I’ve only been matched with players from lower leagues late at night when there aren’t that many players to pick from. I have been the challenge match for those players. For me, it wasn’t a challenge match.
And the 9 year olds in Little League want to play against the 16 year olds for 80% of their games....
@Marine_CorporaI wrote:How is it jacked up?
The reason I always defend the matchmaking is because I see how things work. I’m up to about 10 times climbing the ladder. I start over and go to Masters. When I get there, I start over again.
Why would you defend something that is of a very poor quality?
In C&C Rivals, it can very easily happen that you get an easy opponent, then a really hard opponent, then again a rather easy opponent when you play. There is just no consistent quality to it. But there should be.
I was the same. Far under leveled and then it becomes impossible to win because other players are rolling out level 10 to 12 units to my level 8.
Regardless of any reasoning that you all are going to give me fir this, it is still trash. It's not okay to be punished for your ability.
They need to put players together based on account level until you are level 60.
Yes. That is what we're saying because its total garbage to play impossible matches because you won.
If I am the best player at my level then I deserve to be at the top of that tier and not get beat to death by ranking up too fast.
So again, hell yes. Its unfair. It's a beatdown. It is infuriating. It is unacceptable.
We know. We dont need your explanation. We're saying it is no good.
I'm always in master league with level 7 units. It becomes impossible. I've managed to level up to a few level 9s and I am still underleveled.
On top of all of this infuriating nonsense, I also have to play in the same competitive brackets as the * who lose on purpose to rank down as low as they can FROM TIBERIUM LEAGUE to dominate their bracket and win all of the Colossal Chests.
It. Is. Unacceptable.
@TallCarverV4 wrote:Yes. That is what we're saying because its total garbage to play impossible matches because you won.
If I am the best player at my level then I deserve to be at the top of that tier and not get beat to death by ranking up too fast.
So again, hell yes. Its unfair. It's a beatdown. It is infuriating. It is unacceptable.
Who is it that you want to get matched against if you are so good that you beat all your peers in your former league and now are in the next league?
The same players from your former league or the new players from the league you just reached?
If your units are low and there is no one else in your league with units so low like yours, who should you get matched against?
I know for a fact that your post is an entire lie.
You said you continuously rank up to master league and start over. No. If you do this then you're lying about your units levels.
You are one of these players who ranks down to get wins aren't you? That's why you defend it. You want easier matches against players with lesser units.
Stop replying.
@TallCarverV4 wrote:I know for a fact that your post is an entire lie.
You said you continuously rank up to master league and start over. No. If you do this then you're lying about your units levels.
You are one of these players who ranks down to get wins aren't you? That's why you defend it. You want easier matches against players with lesser units.
Stop replying.
You are a sore loser. You beat everyone in Platinum for example, are now in Diamond, but want to keep playing the same players from Platinum because you cannot level up your units. That’s laughable. You want to do to others what you accuse the system of doing to you. Why do you want to face opponents from lower leagues? So that you can destroy them? Hahaha.
I’m currently in Masters and have been there for a few months so try again. I finally got tired of starting over so I’m just playing. My win rate is about 55 percent and I get beat by level 13 units often. Perhaps I should pitch and moan so that they can match me up with players from Diamond league because my win rate is so low so that I can keep winning more often?
Plain and simple it's a monetary bully. Even if you do level up and spend money you will then play even higher levels against yours that you just leveled up. You cannot get ahead.
I consistently outrank the ladder all the time. Finding myself against level 10 and 11 and 12 when you're still at an average level eight maybe nine. It's nothing but a bloodbath at that point and no fun losing all the time.
@Oldskewlcandc wrote:Plain and simple it's a monetary bully. Even if you do level up and spend money you will then play even higher levels against yours that you just leveled up. You cannot get ahead.
I consistently outrank the ladder all the time. Finding myself against level 10 and 11 and 12 when you're still at an average level eight maybe nine. It's nothing but a bloodbath at that point and no fun losing all the time.
That’s because you will eventually beat those that are at your levels and move ahead just like you did previously. It isn’t a grand conspiracy.
Once you gain more medals from winning after you upgraded your units and beating all the people you beat that had the same amount of medals as you, you now have to face people with higher medals rather than the same people you just beat because you will have more medals now. Those people you now face will have higher units.
It isn’t rocket science to figure out how the game works.
