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Anonymous

11 years ago

Medium-to-High Latency/Ping Issues and Rubber Banding

As a prelude to this, keep in mind that I do play other games (e.g. BF4) with medium-to-high latency and do not experience these problems on them - I have a ping of 190ms +/- 7ms variation. My typical experience with games is:

200ms and below = zero issues. Some games might have input latency.
300ms and below = lag noticeable.
400ms = mostly unplayable, save extreme patience on the part of the player.

DA:I is a radical depature from what I am experiencing in every single other multiplayer game. I have tried both Battleping and WTFast and they have not resolved these issues. I have been through the diagnostic steps with your supports staff (very helpful and friendly, Korina is a great member of your team!) and did not resolve these issues. My latency sits at 190ms +/- 7ms.

Three separate issues:

Joining A Game Results In An Infinite Load Screen After The Cinematic

After the short cinematic (thanks for making it short 😕mileyhappy🙂, if a player has high latency to the session host, a loading screen is displayed. This loading screen does not terminate (tested up to 5 minutes on multiple clients). I'm the only one who has a relatively high latency.

Confirmed workaround: Only join games once the cinematic has ended.

Joining A Game With High Latency Sometimes Results In The Inability To Move

I can't determine the exact cause of this, but about every 1 game in 5 results in a session whereby I am unable to move (that is, after I have used the workaround in step 1). Again, high latency only, my EU friends have not experienced this. All my abilities work, I can't do anything but move.

Confirmed workaround: Rejoin the game.

Main Issue: Extreme Rubberbanding

Some backround, I'm playing Heroes and Generals (first person shooter): servers are in EU - no issues that I am not used to (190ms). I am alpha testing Camelot Unchained, server hosted on Azure in NA (280ms), zero issues that I am not used to. I frequent servers in EU in BF4 (170ms), no issues. I am beta testing Elite: Dangerous, same story - involved and complex combat at 180ms and I experience a level playing field.

With my experience with medium-to-high-latency gaming DA:I is by far the exception to the rule. When I say "by far" I mean an extreme departure from the normal, EXTREME TO THE UTMOST EXTREME. I have to demonstrate vast amounts of patience and comraderie in order to play with my EU friends. I love the game, but would love it more if I could play with my friends. I could continue like this, but working in software and working with sockets on a daily basis, I can honestly assert that there is a serious fundamental flaw here. I am experiencing a percievedlatency of up to 1 second. Using my dodgeroll ability on the archer, I don't actually move unless I actively spam the key - the animation plays, I see the movement on my client and then I snap back to within the range of the attack that I was avoiding.

The game is amazing, absolutely amazing, the single player is some of the best fun I've had in the past 5 years. I never liked DA1 and DA2. This is competely and utterly different and is an outright masterpiece. I just need to be able to play it with my friends on a competent level.

I am happy to expend any amount of effort to get this fixed, if you need any info just let me know.

dragon age inquisition

18 Replies

IHealingHoovesI
11 years ago
okay some people are getting rubberbanding because they are using -GameTime.MaxSimFps 60 -GameTime.ForceSimRate 60+* to unlock the 60 fps for cutscenes so i just want to say if you are one of those person who is using that, you should stop using that otherwise it wont stop the rubberbanding problem you are having with the multiplayer. I know lot of people who used that to unlock 60fps cutscene in single thats why i thought i should put this in this post.
Anonymous
11 years ago
Thanks PrivateLev, however, the 30FPS cutscenes don't bother me so I haven't used that option.
Karmazudaka
11 years ago
I have the same problem and i dont use -GameTime.MaxSimFps 60 -GameTime.ForceSimRate 60+ Pls we need same help!!!!
Anonymous
11 years ago
Note that the FAQ does NOT apply to me:
> Do not alter the command line in the game's properties with any unofficial workarounds. Doing so may prevent the game from performing as it should.
I have not done this.

> If your internet is at the limit of what it can handle, it can tip you over into seeing more rubber banding.
I have ample bandwidth, unless the game is streaming 1080p 60fps video from my friends.
> Rubber banding is caused by insufficient available bandwidth, or a high packet loss rate, which also effectively lowers available bandwidth. Please try undoing/reverting that, as this appears to be the main cause for the rubberbanding behavior in Multiplayer.
Again, nobody in my party has this setting enabled and there is <1% packet loss between us. We can play EVERY SINGLE OTHER GAME together fine, with no rubberbanding issues WHATSOEVER.
Raminotaur
11 years ago
Thank you IIIPrivateLevIII.
This problem has been driving my roommate and I completely nuts for a week. Even sometimes playing with just us and no one else we had this horrific lag. After going back to 30fps (removing the command line on my shortcut) I can join public matches with no problem at all. Spent an hour on the phone with origin tech support doing all sorts of pointless tests, when that was the problem right there.
Thank you, thank you thank you!
Anonymous
11 years ago
I hate how the FAQ assumes everyone is using the hack and its the only cause for rubberbanding. Then everyone reads it and assumes everyone complaining about rubberbanding is dumb. When really they are the ignorant ones. I'm also getting rubberbanding in every single game I'm not hosting. Every single game. I want to like multiplayer more, but the grind is frustrating when you can't even jump and land without rubberbanding back a quarter step. This is the only game where I get this as well.
Also just experienced a bug, possibly related to poor connection where I was teleported to the next room and nothing loaded for me but the floor. I couldn't seen anything else, including the enemy.
Anonymous
11 years ago
Also throwing my hat in the awful lag corner.
There is either a serious issue with how DA:I handles its netcode, a serious issue with how it handles matchmaking, or some other issue (perhaps port forwarding or something else). I have a 50 Mbps downpipe and 10 Mbps up. I can play ever other game just fine. I live in the Bay Area of California, and games hosted in state range from 10-60 ping. I played Mass Effect 3 for over a year, and only ran into rubberbanding issues rarely.
In this game, though, it's a whole different animal. I have yet to play a match that felt truly smooth. 75% of my games have enough rubberbanding and lag to make precise, action-oriented play feel completely unresponsive. I dodge an attack on my screen, and after the animation completes, the game warps me back into range of the monster, staggering from the hit. It's frustrating, because I can see myself liking the game, if only it ran like ME3.
Not sure what's up, but I'd like it acknowledged and addressed.
HelloImThorson
11 years ago
As someone who frequently plays with EU players in other games, I've noticed huge issues, as well. Either I host and they are subject to lagging like crazy, or they host (which is, of course, preferable) and I can't manage to actually play. It becomes a chore, really. I'm just trudging along, tailing everyone and occassionally getting a hit or two in. That's not fun, and DA:I (as amazing as it is) has been the only game to cause such issues for me. Maybe it's because it goes on a P2P system, rather than one with dedicated servers? I can't say for certain.
riz_
11 years ago
Latency and FPS are totally unrelated. This is a latency issue and nothing to do with the 60 FPS non-sense. DA:I multiplayer is P2P, meaning someone in your part is the host. You might remember this type of multiplayer from games 10+ years ago. There is absolutely nothing you can do except find a good host, preferably physically near you (same state / region).
Yazid
11 years ago
I'm also experiencing those problems :/
Funny thing is, this is only happening for THIS game, even on ME3 MP i was able to play without many issues, but on DAI the rubberbanding really takes away from the experience.
I'd like to but i don't even have the will to log and play because i know i'll experience those gamebreaking(For me) issues