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WyllRavengard's avatar
WyllRavengard
New Adventurer
3 months ago

DEVS READ - I was in your corner BioWare, but...

I was in your corner and trying to avoid all the negative feedback that I've seen, well EVERYWHERE.  And, I am enjoying the game, except I expected a lot more from a BioWare game relative to romance!  And, from what I've read, the nudity opt-in button isn't even needed, since there isn't any!

I haven't finished the game yet and so far I'm good with the story and your writing, though very disappointed so far with the lack of much of a romance.  Even your "romance" choices in dialogue do not turn into much of a flirt at all - I mean, if that's what you call a flirt - oh well.

Maybe you all need to go play BG3, then come back and record some scenes.  If you end up not having nudity, at least let the freaking dialogue be good!!!!

Not sure I'm staying in your corner here - I may go back and change all of my reviews to negative!  I'm already irritated that you took away the Jacob male romance in ME2 and that you had nudity in straight scenes in ME:A but no nudity in all male scenes, and I'm really not sure where you came up with the skin textures in this game.  Faces looked better than this in ME:A!

Just very disappointed.  Looks like you might not make enough to cover what it cost to make the game.  That is on YOU!

7 Replies

  • DexiDerp's avatar
    DexiDerp
    Seasoned Vanguard
    3 months ago

    +1.

    If I buy a BioWare game, it’s for the romance. I didn’t buy Anthem, because it had no romance. I can’t believe this is the same series as Inquisition, that had some of the most heartwarming interactions WITH (not BETWEEN) companions I’ve ever experienced. I trusted them and preordered, but 100% guaranteed if I had known this game only had twenty minutes of romance content per companion, with most of it not even being cutscenes with branching choices (why would I replay Lucanis’ commitment scene? There’s no variety!), I wouldn’t have bought it at all.

    I didn’t want to dislike this game. I am not one of those review-bombing dorks. I am a regular dork that likes the romance aspect of the games BioWare built their name on. This is so disappointing. There’s like six scenes of build up in Inquisition with near break-ups and heavy relationship development, with the eventual payoff being a relationship that felt in line with the kind of Inquisitor you were playing. There’s none of that here.

  • WyllRavengard's avatar
    WyllRavengard
    New Adventurer
    3 months ago

    I completely agree with you!  And, I'm also not a review-bomber, more so I try to help with positive reviews... But, if being honest in a review and letting others know it isn't what they are expecting, it might save them 60 bucks!

    I forgot to mention.. with the lack of substance in these "romantic conversations," the gift giving is even worse.  You give a gift and they say,  "oh."  That is ridiculous.

    Did you all write this game for a sixth grader, or for adults?

  • DexiDerp's avatar
    DexiDerp
    Seasoned Vanguard
    3 months ago

    Yeah, I’ve talked about it elsewhere, but the romances this time are devoid of any conflict at all. At first, I was one of those people that couldn’t believe people were saying the game was too light and wasn’t dark enough. “There’s dead bodies everywhere! The monsters are grotesque!”

    But the companions are basically Care Bears and the romances are completely toothless. I can only speak to Lucanis’ fully, but I’ve heard the others don’t differ much. Blackwall was in chains and had to be forgiven for war crimes before I could lock in his romance. Cullen needed to address lyrium addiction. Solas took Lavellan’s vallaslin. The conversation with Dorian’s father and whether or not to forgive him was heart wrenching.

    I don’t even get to talk to Lucanis about Spite and what it means to be with him before I lock the romance, not truly. Spite is basically a non-issue that everyone treats like a mischievous pet, despite being a literal demon that expresses a sort of obsession with Rook. Wasted plot device. Lucanis’ career as an Antivan Crow doesn’t play a part at all either, though they are historically morally sketchy. There’s no friction or adult relationship building, no communication at all. It’s just checking boxes.

  • WyllRavengard's avatar
    WyllRavengard
    New Adventurer
    3 months ago

    Well, that is saddening to read!  I wanted to continue a playthrough romancing Lucanis, but I think all of them are basically not worth the effort, it seems.

    I also expected some discussion would take place between Rook and Lucanis about Spite, as they started to heat up the romance.  I mean, like you, that is a topic that I would need to cover before I jumped into anything with someone possessed by a demon.

    After 10 years ... and, you know it's not like they can't review mods to see what else people want to see in their games ... and, then there's other games, like BG3, that they should have gotten some ideas from, especially with its success.

    At least in Inquisition, you could go back and talk to your love interest when you wanted to and also even get a kiss when you wanted to.

    Just too disappointed.

  • DexiDerp's avatar
    DexiDerp
    Seasoned Vanguard
    3 months ago

    Yeah, and I think it’s just that there’s too much to forgive, in general. Any one issue might be worth overlooking, but when it all comes together it paints a pretty bland picture. Add in the fact that Lucanis’ commitment scene is the exact. same. as the scene where he confirms that he’s pursuing Neve and it’s infuriating. It’s the same scene. It’s the same scene. He does the same thing to express his interest in both of them! 

    Rook and Neve are entirely interchangeable in his storyline, except Neve at least gets some reciprocation when she flirts, isn’t that so romantic? Truly, a love story for the (Dragon) ages! Lmao 

    Some people are finding that the ending scene makes up for…everything that comes before it, but ehhhh, maybe I’m still just too annoyed. I don’t feel pacified by it. Maybe you’d find some joy in it, but if the other, universally considered “better” options didn’t do it, I would say that it’s probably not worth your time. His whole mid-game is dead in the water.

  • WyllRavengard's avatar
    WyllRavengard
    New Adventurer
    3 months ago

    Agreed.  I don't know if I can make it to the final act and scenes knowing what I know now about everything in between.  I'm beginning to wonder what made me think they would, or could, create a good game... I just thought they might have learned some lessons in the past 7-10 years *(considering DAI and ME:A).  I guess not.

    If you find or come across anything worth playing for in the Lucanis romance, let me know.

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