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Vandymon's avatar
Vandymon
2 years ago

Re: 🐉Dragon Age: The Veilguard Gameplay Reveal - Let us know your thoughts! 🐉

Hi all,

I have a few concerns about the upcoming Dragon Age: The Veilguard.

the gameplay trailer leaves a lot to be desired if the YouTube comments are to be listened to. 
my biggest gripes are the combat, lore and art style. The combat appears over the shoulder style not dragon age like at all. The lore is not in continuity with the previous games, the pride demon, the darkspawn, they are all neon Christmas tree’s not dark and gritty at all.

the art style is also not In line with previous games, as there is no blood or gore and the darkness is overwhelmed by sparkly effects and vibrant colours. 
my BIGGEST gripe is the mispronounciation of Neve. It’s not pronounced ‘Nev’ like Neville it’s pronounced Neeve with emphasis on the ‘ee’ sound as it’s an anglicised version of the Gaelic ‘Niamh’ pronounced this way. My daughter is Neve and I know that Nev is not the way to pronounce it.
I know it’s early development, but I would like to see these things fixed in the game. 

Please listen to the community before you ruin the dragon age lore and games. 
any other discussion?

12 Replies

  • freault's avatar
    freault
    2 years ago
    @Vandymon I agree with you, the game has lost it's way. They've taken away the blood and the gore and it doesn't have that feel to it like the other games had. This is a game that i won't buy sorry to say.
  • Vandymon's avatar
    Vandymon
    11 months ago

    I’m not buying this even if they paid me to take the game. It’s really upsetting because I love Dragon Age. 100% every achievement on the Xbox and played the heck out of it on the PC,

    they need to scrap it and start again. Breast surgery scars and flat head qunari? Go woke and go broke. Don’t change character design on decades old series either.

  • holger1405's avatar
    holger1405
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    11 months ago

    @Vandymon 

    You mean the character design that was changed in every game of the series?
    (Something you would know if you "I love Dragon Age. 100%".)


    And could you please enlighten me on how the things you listed effect you in any way?
    No one is forcing you to use the breast surgery scar option or to play as a Qunari, nor are they taking anything away from you.

  • Fred_vdp's avatar
    Fred_vdp
    Hero+
    11 months ago
    @Vandymon wrote:

    Go woke and go broke.

    Baldur's Gate 3 is one of the wokest games ever made, and that was a massive critical and commercial success.

    @Vandymon wrote:

    Don’t change character design on decades old series either.

    Every Dragon Age game has a different art style. You mentioned qunari, but they have a different design in every Dragon Age game. 

  • joseluisduran01's avatar
    joseluisduran01
    Rising Rookie
    10 months ago

    Claiming that this game is woke or not is stupid. We should not enter into that discussion.
    Dragon Age has always been a game open to everyone, and that's never been criticized. Since DA Origins, where there were bisexual main characters, and it was great, at least for me. In Mass Effect, I almost always choose a male Sheppard, and I love that he falls in love with Kaidan, and how well written all that development is.

    The problem with VEILGUARD is that someone entrusted the direction of this game to a person with zero experience in this type of games and narratives (the sims is another world). And possibly people with much more capacity and skills to lead a project of this size fell by the wayside. The direction of the game opted for a brutal change in the design of characters, their faces and nuances, which no one asked for and almost no one liked. The critics are almost unanimous in this sense, and those who do not want to see it, should look at what is happening with Ubisoft.

    There are countless hairstyles and a purple color permeates everything. They try to disguise this with arguments that may seem reasonable (more customization and that the color purple is of the "high nobility"), but how sad and pathetic are purely personal decisions of the director of the project, because they are simply things that she loves, especially the color purple which is her favorite color. He told IGN in a recent interview. I don't care about the color, the thousands of hairstyles or the surgery marks. The problem for me is that it has taken time away from the developers to create a better game by doing these things, or, worse, that very competent people have been fired for not agreeing with these decisions... artistic and others.

     
  • holger1405's avatar
    holger1405
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    10 months ago

    @joseluisduran01 

    joseluisduran01 wrote:

    The direction of the game opted for a brutal change in the design of characters, their faces and nuances, which no one asked for and almost no one liked.

    I know a lot of people who like the new art style. Would you like to prove that "almost no one liked" that art-style.

    I mean, you must know of a representative survey, right? You wouldn't make such a claim without proof, would you? 👿

    A art-style is always subjective, some people will like it and others not. That's just how it is.

    joseluisduran01 wrote:

    .....that very competent people have been fired for not agreeing with these decisions... artistic and others.

     

    Again, do you have any evidence to support this rather large claim?
    These people were laid off a few moths ago, after working on the game for 9 years.


    I doubt very much that these people suddenly turned against what they had spent so long helping to create.


  • joseluisduran01's avatar
    joseluisduran01
    Rising Rookie
    10 months ago
    @holger1405
    It is evident that the artistic direction, the colors, etc... It's a matter of taste. My idea of writing is a forum is not to affirm the obvious, but to talk (if possible and without extreme positions) about what is debatable and apply a little common sense, which seems to be lacking more and more in the video game industry. It cannot be that every time someone criticizes this game, everything is a "you are not right", "it is all a matter of taste" or already, what is missing, "is that you are extreme right" or "you are a transphobe". Not everyone who thinks differently or criticizes this game is a racist, a transphobe, is not right, or just calling it "it's just your opinion". The fact that these criticisms coincide with others made by fascist, ultra-right, gay-hating people, and who talk about agendas, does not mean that the criticism is not legitimate and well-founded.

    There is a barrage of criticism of this game since the presentation trailer was released, which by the way was pathetic and I understand that supervised and reviewed by those people who have been working on the game for 9 years. Painting everything purple... There is also another part that has really liked what it has seen. But there is a great division. And those who do not want to see it, there is each one with their freedom to see and think.

    You can't develop a game and make decisions behind the backs of the players, especially if we're talking about a saga. Baldus Gate 3 is a perfect example of just WHAT NOT DONE the current Bioware. It is different from the previous ones, but at the same time respectful of all the previous work and coherently following an evolution in everything (design, art, colors, etc...). And by the way, with thousands of options for all sensitivities and orientations of sex and gender. It's great.

    There are many well-founded criticisms of the destruction that has been done to this saga. And Electronics Arts will pay for it, and the worst will be the layoffs.
    You don't know how I expect to be wrong, but I'm afraid it will be so.
  • Vandymon's avatar
    Vandymon
    10 months ago
    @Fred_vdp wrote:
    @Vandymon wrote:

    Go woke and go broke.

    Baldur's Gate 3 is one of the wokest games ever made, and that was a massive critical and commercial success.

    @Vandymon wrote:

    Don’t change character design on decades old series either.

    Every Dragon Age game has a different art style. You mentioned qunari, but they have a different design in every Dragon Age game. 

    Baldurs gate 3 is well written with good source material behind it. I’m not against certain aspects of the game such as bisexual characters, however they have not listened to the fans. It’s a game that should have been better than the last not worse. 

    art style is everything. comparing this to, say, baldurs gate 3 is like a puppy to a cat. However qu air are already depicted as strong warrior type characters with a wrinkly forehead, not smooth head chumps.

    i enjoy the opinion and discussion too, please keep it going.

  • holger1405's avatar
    holger1405
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    10 months ago

    @joseluisduran01 

    joseluisduran01 wrote:
    or just calling it "it's just your opinion".

    But that is exactly what it is, your opinion, and your opinion is not the law of the land, and there are many people with a different opinion.


    You're criticising a massive RPG just because of how it looks and certain decisions that were made that you don't like, before you've even played it, so forgive me if I don't care much for your opinion.

    It seems this game is not for you, that's fine, there are plenty of good games out there that you might like, I'm going to enjoy DAtV in the meantime.

  • joseluisduran01's avatar
    joseluisduran01
    Rising Rookie
    10 months ago
    @holger1405
    Well, in order not to interest "my opinion", I don't know why you insist on saying NO to everything I think. If you like the game so much (without having played it) then perfect, pre-buy it and you will support what you are seeing.

    For my part, I will not buy the game. And it's a shame.

    The reason for intervening in this forum is precisely to make public why I don't like it, not for you or anyone else to tell them that they like or don't like my opinion. I don't need your approval. I don't care if you care or not. Live your life.

    If this is read by someone from EA or Bioware, then take note (if you are interested in knowing what they think about what they buy their games) and draw their conclusions.

    Sales will speak. And I hope that all those "modern audiences" or those who like the new style, will pay for it.

    And I'll be glad I'm wrong about everything, and that we're a minority of those of us who think that someone at Bioware has screwed up again (read Anthem or Mass Effect Andromeda)

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