Hey drivers, The newest patch is now available across all platforms. You can find out what's in this patch in this thread here Need some help? Something in the patch not working the way it should? Tell us in this thread! -rephii

It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products.It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable.Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG.Red flags are still broken.Safety cars are still broken.You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it.Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized.You did neither.I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers.Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work.The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?!

Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't. This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

The F1 World tech changes has improved nothing. Granted, I'm now 4 seconds a lap faster than the AI instead of 6, but that's it. Shove the tech modifier up and you end up with noobs in rocket ships. Fast in straight lines but can't handle a fight. Only played it for 5 minutes and the problems were instantly visible, how the testers didn't notices this beggars belief. New year, same old story.Leaving the AI difficulty locked at 35% is what's holding the whole feature back. I can't believe it's just being left that way.Edit: It just feels like, for the past few years, when there's a fix needed, the minimum amount of effort possible is put into it, corners are cut, compromises are made, and it becomes just surface-level, papering over the cracks."But for this to work properly, you need to fix this aswell""Nah, just do this and leave it. It'll take too much time and effort, need to work on the eSports model anyway. Besides, this game is only for casuals now, they won't notice."That's how it feels.

This sums it up @Trekari wrote: It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products. It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable. Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG. Red flags are still broken. Safety cars are still broken. You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it. Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized. You did neither. I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers. Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work. The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?! This sums it up very well. It's awful. Not once was there an apology to the huge playerbase not being able to play for 2 months. They just don't care. They got the money and that's all they want anyway. I sincerely hope the sales continue to plummet and they get what they deserve. For the fact this is a racing game, it's incredible that all these FFB issues are still around and simply won't be patched. At least have the decency to offer refunds to those who are screwed by all these issues or offer an apology. We know that EA has never cared about their customers. F1 is a new low tho. [Edited] CM Edited post to clean things up to align with rules.

@Iceman038-NL wrote:Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

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Meza994
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Tbf if the next game has the slightest hints of same bugs or even more bugs pre release then the sales are gonna drop even further, people are rightfully annoyed by this especially considering the price
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Meza994 I think only thing that will hold sales next year is major overhaul to career modes and new engine. Personally I think it’s Epic fail they havnt touched career modes
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
Whenever talk of new game engines comes up I'm reminded that the last time they did this we got F1 2015, which had no career mode at all. I can't see this happening again personally but I do suspect expecting a new engine AND major changes to career mode is unfortunately likely to lead to disappointment.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Ultrasonic_77 That is my least played F1 game. As it didn’t have career mode. I played it once. Couple of races. Only time I started the game after was to see if they have by chance added a career mode update.
Monzstar83
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@Meza994I think only thing that will hold sales next year is major overhaul to career modes and new engine. Personally I think it’s Epic fail they havnt touched career modes
@ScarDuck14 I think they gambled this year with F1 World; trying to capitalise on the recent popularity of the sport. I’ve seen some posts regarding game sales being lower than previous versions - probably due to a combination of massive bugs and also the season IRL hasn’t been “box-office”. So, all in all, I don’t think the gamble has paid off.
I’ve said elsewhere on the boards (regarding the trade off between developing F1 world and Career modes), that next year’s game will be the clearest indication of their focus and the way the franchise is going. My hope is because the gamble hasn’t paid off, they have no choice but to double-down on Career modes and sorting long-standing bugs, as @Meza994 suggests.
Here’s hoping 🤞🏽
Meza994
2 years ago
Got the same feeling as @Ultrasonic_77 but then again 2015 wasnt bugfree either from what i heard but i also agree they likely wont do another game without career mode nor do i think they could allow themselfes another game without
@Monzstar83quite likely also probably thinking a bit too much with their wallet when they made that decision.. However i dont really know if they will really learn.. The people up high dont take a look at comments or forums (at least very unlikely) and all they take a look at is what part of the game is being played most, well many of the most played modes are hidden within F1 World so actually if one only looks at numbers it will probably be the most played mode, especially with Career mode being boring for 3 years now and leagues apparently also problematic so i dont know yet.. Too much mistrust on people who make big decisions i guess😂
mariohomoh
Hero (Retired)
2 years ago
@Monzstar83 F1 World seems to be their latest attempt at monetizing the product by trying to increase player engagement and exposition to microtransactions. Not really trying to capitalize on the recent resurgence in popularity, just applying those many tricks of "keep players logging in every day and eventually they'll buy something".

Given how it's also a huge raise in popularity for team principals and team drama, a proper revamping of career modes would be more pertinent in my opinion.
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
My suspicion re. F1 world was that it was based on a broader drive from EA to introduce similar elements across multiple titles. And from my perspective the concepts seem broadly GOOD to me but most specifically falling down by inexplicably not providing an adjustable AI difficulty setting.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Monzstar83 Think their more likely to double down on F1 World unfortunately for the reasons Mario said
P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@mariohomoh
That's what I meant by "priorities". They hope gamers buy pit coins to get "items" only available outside passes.
And when you look at passes (even VIP), you can see that they mostly feed you stuff for F1 Worlds. Last year, we at least had more options for livery and helmets, this year not even that.
(I am not saying they were great options but more at least)
This year, we get stickers!! (yeay ☹️ )

I would love to see Career mode uplift because game gets a bit boring. I'd like to see stuff like in Motosport Manager, where you can develop a car part with questionable rule application and risk a scrutiny after the race. Teams do that all the time (see AM 😉 ) so why not to put it in game?
We still don't have budget capping in game (R&D points/money) which is already part of F1 IRL. Why? Because they focus on wrong things in game.

I very much hope it will improve in next release because 23 might be the last one I bought ☹️
(and I have all since 2011)

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