Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories in the world and at the forefront of launches and developments, etc. It's almost like the space industry works (laughs). What is your opinion about this? Should the game come with the possibility of PSVR2? If it doesn't come at launch, is it due to an update?

@TheRagebeard wrote:@SteveJackson "And I am obviously in a shocking subset who would rather the game was better than supported VR in any fashion!" you are not part of a shocking subset. 95%+ of the people who buy this game would prefer a better overall experience to having VR capabilities. The average consumer who's going to buy this game not only doesn't have VR they don't even have a wheel.Many people overlook the fact that as "hardcore" players who spent a bunch on money on a sim racing setup we tend to normalize that "hardcoreness" both because we hang around this board with other hardcore sim racers and our IRL friends tend to skew towards hardcore sim racing. As you mention the population as a whole is a bunch on controller Charlies who save they're money for other interests or to diversify their collection of games.TLDR: I completely agree with you, throw VR in throw and focus on making a decent game.I was being a little facetious.The point is twofold, even those that buy VR don’t always want to use it for racing. So it does seem that 1.1% may be a generous figure. And @mariohomoh is correct, if resources are tight VR is the last thing to develop.

@superhoops82 wrote:@Cpayne32 I imagine the number of PSVR2 players buying F124 if it supported the headset would be a fair bit higher than that. Certainly at least 100,000 if you align it to number of RE4 remake players playing that game in VR. I imagine there is less uptake of individual horror games in VR, firstly because they are scary as hell on VR (from personal opinion) and secondly because there is a large selection of games like that already. F124 only has GT7 to compete against and F124 would offer something very different with it having real life drivers and a proper real life championship to take part in with actual qualifying and standing grid starts. Just looking on the comments for F124 on EA F1 twitter (sorry, X), the most requested things appear to be better graphics, more realism with the physics, better helmet design and PSVR2 support. There is a target audience of 1.3 million PSVR2 users (maybe more) if they add the support. Those are not small numbers. Now is a better time than any with GT7 being the only racing game available for it currently. Personally, I think F1 game sales would have a better chance of improving by adding a feature that is actually adding something significant to the game rather than adding features like "improved handling" which are purely subjective and seems to be a thing that is added every year. I keep seeing comments that the game hasn't really changed since 2020 (some even saying since 2016) and that year on year sales are in the decline. Think they're missing a trick here to be honest and seem happy enough to offer the bare minimum with their annual updates.Out of interest, what is needed to improve the career mode? I've not played an F1 game since 2020 and would only play career mode, but I don't know what more I'd personally want from it. Seemed to have a lot to do in it back in 2020 and didn't really have any complaints about it myself back then. I would definitely want to do the podium ceremony on PSVR2 though. That would be awesome. Is that in there on PC VR?You're deluded to push your personal agenda like that. Cloud cuckoo land. A real captain of industry.

They really need to add PSVR2 compatibility. There is a big target audience out there who own the headset and who are in awe of how it works with GT7 (like I am). This could be a real headset seller for those who haven't bought it yet as F1's popularity is huge. I've got no interest in buying an F1 game without PSVR2 support. Once you race in VR, there is no going back. There is also only one VR racing game for PSVR2, so I'd say a hefty percentage of the 1.3 million (?) PSVR2 owners would pick this up.

Honestly, it's a fairly simple equation for CM. How easy/time consuming is it to implement PSVR2?What percentage of our players play on PlayStation?Of those who play on PS5 how many have virtual reality headsets?TLDR, You need to reach come sort of critical mass in terms of player base to make it worthwhile and I'm inclined to agree with @ScarDuck14 that it seems unlikely.Also given the number of bugs, glitches and lack of innovation relating to core gameplay features that tend to accompany every new release I think the community would be better served by them focusing on those issues instead of implementing something that's going to be used by less than 5% of the player base.

Come on, guys...EA has tons of info and insights about the gaming market and gamers preferences. Easy to presume that if this implementation was really profitable in terms of compressing it into a already tight development schedule, perhaps leading to other improvements being dropped, it would be already done.Not to mention that developing in PCs is way easier than on consoles, actually this could be the no-go for PSVR2.Time is expensive and maybe we need to look the bigger picture.

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jkkj_PS5
11 months ago
@ScarDuck14 Capcom added PSVR2 support for two Resdent Evil games after they were released. Though it ain’t an official term I’d call them triple A games. They are not exclusive game either and the VR support was free, so I see no reason why other publishers couldn’t do the same if they wanted.
Racing games are also somewhat of a niche. Sure, most people play those games with a controller. But those who are really into them have wheels and setups that can cost way more than the PSVR2. Just a wheelbase alone can be triple that (and be PS compatible). So while the majority play them with a controller there’s added value in the game if they support steering wheels too, even though only a minority of gamers own said wheels.
A lot of sim racers already prefer VR because even though it has the drawbacks you mentioned the benefits of depth perception, ability to focus on apexes and being able to check your sides and mirrors by turning your head are worth it. The “isolation” of wearing a headset isn’t also that big of a deal as you’re already in away confined in your virtual car and the field of view of a headset simulates that perfectly.
F1 as a sport presents itself as the pinnacle of motorsport and a leader of innovation and technology, so it’s more than strange that an exclusively licensed game of the sport seems to go out of its way not to embrace neither innovation or technology.
ScarDuck14
Legend
11 months ago
@jkkj_PS5 Probably because F1 and Codemasters together have always had a clear direction for the games and that is to be a good representation of the sport that is easily accessible to all gamers thus increasing the likelihood hood off casual F1 fans and gamers buying the game. But continue to promote the F1 brand. F1 are not so much interested in how realistic the game is or if it’s the pinnacle of racing games, EA will have run the numbers. If it were profitable to add PSVR2 support. You can be sure it would be added.

Sorry didn’t know Resident Evil had it added. Which is odd as I’m on my PS5 every day for last 3 years almost and always browse the store and must have missed them
jkkj_PS5
11 months ago
@ScarDuck14 Resident Evil 4 remake got the PSVR2 support about 9 months after the game originally got released and RE 8/Village got it at the same time as the PSVR2 itself got released. Both are free DLC if you already got the game and makes the whole game playable on VR, not just certain parts of it (like Project Wingman for example that just added some missions for VR).
I get that EA’s F1 games are trying to target casual gamers and fans of the sport, not just sim racing enthusiasts. But they are a target audience as well and the game is also the official game of the F1 eSports league where every actual F1 team also has sim racing drivers competing for them, so they are definitely trying to be credible as well. The current F1 champion Max Verstappen is also an “EA Sports ambassador” and they have drivers like Charles Leclerc as well posting videos and in-game lap times as challenges within the game so I’m really baffled why they have seemingly no interest making the game actually better with an addition like PSVR2 support even if the current player base for it is relatively small. Especially since VR is supported on the PC.
There’s also the additional worrying fact that since EA & Codemaster now have the exclusive rights to WRC as well they are now somewhat of an official monopoly in both formula and rallying games so if there’s no VR support planned for one then there probably isn’t for the other either. So thanks to that it looks like VR for racing games seems to be going nowhere for the foreseeable future on consoles. I for one don’t see anything good about that, regardless if I own a VR headset or not.
Console players already have to pay extra to be able to play online. If Sony brings PSVR2 for the PC and PC is already the only option for VR racing game (apart from GT7) that’s just means PC is starting to be a better and better option for even casual gamers than consoles.
I’m sure EA has the numbers but I would guess that console gamers are huge part of their customer base and as console games tend to cost more as well in addition to bringing subscribers to their platforms (like EA Play that’s included in Xbox Game Pass) I don’t see the lacking support for console as anything else but short sighted.
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
11 months ago
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
PS5 consoles sales are also down and well below expectations.
Not had chance to watch your video yet but that's not at all what I've heard from other sources.
b77b3a9e41aca31
11 months ago
It’s real simple EA, I will NOT be buying, what is basically the same game as last year if it doesn’t offer PSVR2 support. Gt7 gets 90% of my racing time because of the VR. EA, if you want my money, give me F1 in psvr2 and while your at it put psvr2 support into the WRC game too. Then I’ll start your buying games again.
Meteore
11 months ago
I think EA cannot do a good version for PSVR2. They work with old gen engine. I bought, all F1 until 2022. GT7 on PSVR2 isn’t perfect, but good enough that players are no longer able to race cars on a flat screen! I don’t understand why EA / CM have an exclusive licence from F1 racing. You must to be at the state-of-the-art technology… like the real F1. Ultimately they have no respect for users by giving no reason about unsupport PSVR2.
alexworden72
11 months ago
In 2017, Codemasters released "DiRT Rally VR Upgrade". It was incredible! It allowed the entire game to be played in PSVR. Why can't they do this for their F1 games? Find the developers that pulled off this remarkable feat and ask them to do the same for F1. This stuff IS NOT THAT HARD. Sony have created PSVR and PSVR2 with software libraries to allow game developers to easily integrate with it and render the graphics in 3D to the VR headsets. I don't buy for a second that this isn't a good business decision. It would sell more PS5, PSVR2, and force feedback wheel hardware. Sim racing is becoming more popular every year. The only options right now are to buy a gaming PC, which is incompatible with 99% of consumer's budgets and home setup. You need an entire room to dedicate to it if you can't play it on a TV from the couch!
Meteore
11 months ago
E/A and CM did F1 for PCVR, … for how many users?? For probably les than 5k users…. And with users with different kind of hardware set up ( with individual bugs). With PSVR2, you can reach the majority of PSVR2 GT7 users (min 100k) with a Sony ecosystem!! Everybody have the same setup with the same behavior…and they can work in the same direction to fine tune the program !
(sorry for my English., I am a French speaking)
superhoops82
11 months ago
If you reach those 100k PSVR2 owners who play GT7 (and won't get flat only racing games again like myself) that would bring in £7 million. I don't believe for a second that it would cost anywhere near that much to implement PSVR2 support for F1 24. I think it would sell considerably more that that for PSVR2 users due to the greater appeal for F1.
And as the previous poster said, this is a setup that is same for all and should be easier to make into a very satisfying experience like with GT7.
Meteore
11 months ago
We are on the EA forum, why are we not receiving any commentary from them?

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