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Seasoned Ace

3 years ago

Bahrain strategy 100% race distance

Hello everybody,
for once I would like to share some "game played" as a driver / team manager regarding the race strategies, at the moment I am really in doubt about what to do.

Just to frame the situation I run in GP mode, 100% length, AI 100 (opening race in Bahrain). In qualifying I saved two sets of new (S) tyres and I will start in P3. Maybe I could do P2 using an extra set of new tyres in Q3 but it doesn't change much and I preferred the race anyway. In reality, however, the simulation of the race strategy proposed by the game is very much in the balance between S-S-M and M-H:

besides my calculations, based on my real race pace, are still (slightly) more oriented towards M-H strategy:

Considering the strategies in a more or less equivalent way, we go to the doubts about the choice to make:

S-S-M

PRO

- Better start, I could hold the position and try to keep Verstappen's pace ahead of me (even if according to my pace tests it's not obvious)

CON

- I should overtake on the track and I have less top speed than the AI, I could struggle

M-H

PRO

- Even if I had a difficult start, my race pace could be similar to those of the "second group", I could take advantage of the DRS and save the ERS for the second phase of the race.

- One pit stop only: phase in which I usually always lose something compared to the AI, probably in finding the rhythm with a new tire

- Track position: I could be ahead after the pit stop

CON

- Difficult start, I could lose positions and above all time struggling in the economy of the entire race

- Hard tyres to warm up after the pit stop, I could lose a lot of time not expected or calculated in the simulations

- if the AI reaches me in the final it is almost impossible to defend myself, I have less top speed

Anyone wishing to participate in the discussion with advice, ideas, considerations is welcome, even just once to "play" with our game 🙂

Thank you and have a nice sunday,

Nuv

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14 Replies

Apophis-STR
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Nuvolarix One thing to note is that, with the new tire temp update, tracks that had lots of consecutive & long winding corners are gonna hurt the SSM strategy quite badly due to soft tires tend to overheat a lot easier.

When the tires are over 101 degrees, you'll easily lose a second or more due to the massive lost of grip, and with those tracks mentioned above, even with the lowest pressure setting the S tires might still reach such temperature.
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Apophis-STR yes thank you for the tip, according with my pace tests I should be able to keep temperatures down and still having a good pace, but it’s surely a point to keep in mind especially in a possible battle 👍
That’s a +1 for M-H strategy
QUALLENFISCH
New Traveler
3 years ago
@Nuvolarix The recent trend by the way is H-M instead of M-H, as the hards are so extremely difficult to warm up after pitstop. Have a look at streams of PSGL, WOR etc.
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@QUALLENFISCH yes that’s true thank you, the formation lap helps to warm up the H. It’s only a bit sad, never seen a P3 IRL in the grid starting with H ☹️
ajobling1983
Rising Ace
3 years ago
@QUALLENFISCH wrote:
@NuvolarixThe recent trend by the way is H-M instead of M-H, as the hards are so extremely difficult to warm up after pitstop. Have a look at streams of PSGL, WOR etc.
This is really hurting me on career mode. The outlap on hards is so difficult and i end up losing so much time to the cars around me. Doesnt seem to effect the AI as much as the player.
i might try starting on hards
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ajobling1983 you're right, although a little reluctantly I'll take it into consideration too.
Perhaps @EA_Kent could follow the discussion and verify if the AI has the same difficulties with cold tyres, it would greatly benefit the realism and also the playability
ajobling1983
Rising Ace
3 years ago
@Nuvolarix I dont think the AI suffer from tyre temps. Probably just programmed to be slightly slower on outlaps. Because they zoom off into the distance way too quickly.
Mikulitsi
New Adventurer
3 years ago
Honestly... We need the race strategy program from career mode into GP mode practices. Would be so useful to have personalised strategies...
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
At the end I decided for H-M strategy, I lost 1 position (for me it's an 'only') from P3 to P4 and suffered a little bit in the first laps, losing another position to P5.
Then I started to have a good pace for all the 57 laps and managed to end in P4, 4 seconds behind the podium.
I think strategy was good, I felt comfortable, I don't have the counter-proof but I think in the end better than S-S-M.
BTW all the top drivers did 1 stop only (S-H or M-H).
Regards,
Nuv
mariohomoh
Hero (Retired)
3 years ago
@Nuvolarix Your Excel work, even filling in cells like this for a better look... Color me enamored 🥰

I usually start sober and composed just to start painting purples and oranges all over the worksheet.