This game does not like you being “out of position”

Oh boy, here we go again 🤣

Tho I've just finished Ímola feature race under mixed condition and felt something similar: First 40ish laps with Soft-Inters were just fine but I lost lots os pace towards the final laps. Tyres were still ok but I was overfueled by +4 laps, 'cause race practice program was made under dry conditions.

So it goes into that grey area where one can argue both ways: the game "playing" against me or the extra weight from the fuel.

Next race is under mixed conditions too, gonna underfuel, recover it during the wet phase of the race and see if the code plays against me.

I know it also sounds like some of those 'conspiracy theorists' guys, but.. I also strongly believe that the game IS programmed to 'cheat' and throw all kinds of 'obstacles' in the way of the player and make things harder than they should be - this happens a LOT to be just coincidence..

I understand that this is an aspect of several other games and that the game is just trying to create 'new challenges' to the player, etc, BUT.. at the same time, I think we have the option to set the AI level to, literally level things up with our own skill level and that should be more than enough to give us the EXACT amount of challenge we want, so.. it feels like being cheated when all kinds of unbelievable BS gets thrown at you, over and over again - I honestly DON'T like this aspect of the game - once again: I understand and think this is ok for other types of games, but it feels super frustrating (and like being cheated) in a game like F1 22 - also, I think that's completely unnecessary and unwanted, so.. I hope the devs think twice about having/adding stuff like this to the game/AI coding in the future - here's hoping..

@Monzstar83I know exactly what you mean. But what’s really annoying. Is where we’re you guys last year? Post after post I made complaining about this. And ok they often ended up being TLDR. And I may have come across as some crazy conspiracy theorist🤪 Especially as far as @Meza994  was concerned 😜 😂 But Ii am all knowing 🙄

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@Monzstar83 wrote:

Hey guys,

This game really doesn’t like it when you’re “out of position” does it? 

I have loads of examples of when I’m “out of position” in a positive sense, and something weird happens that is just too much of a coincidence…

Like the car directly ahead breaking down right in front of you, cars magically coming back from miles behind despite no DRS and no drop in my pace to explain, wet weather coming in much earlier than predicted…

My latest example is probably the most extreme;

New patch, started a new MyTeam career. AI 90, Started as a newcomer team. Fault frequency set to low.

Car is 9th in the dev rankings. 1st in the durability rankings though.

Race 1 - Bahrain - finish 9th. All good.

Race 2 - Saudi - DNF mechanical issue - control electrics. Was on for a points finish. OK…

Race 3 - Australia - lap 10 -  SC comes out close enough to my pit window, and just as I’m coming round to pit entry. I immediately pit. A few laps later, DNF mechanical issue - control electrics… Was riding in 4th and would have definitely finished top 10.

Each time I DNF’ed in this season, I got no research points gained from failure like other times before, like in previous MyTeam saves…

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, OK  🧐🧐🧐

Curious to hear your experiences 🖖🏽

P.S. @ScarDuck14 you know what I’m talking about  😂

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The "best" part of all this is in Race 2 and 3 in your example I bet if you restarted the session in both of those races you'd have the exact same DNF on the exact same lap.  So would any AI failures that weren't accident/crash related.  It's all pre-programmed.

I know when the game first came out you would at least get some R&D points for failures as you stated, but now it's just showing 0 all the time.  Likely got broken in one of the 15 patches.  Almost every failure that is mechanical/fault related outside of a collision is scripted before the race it seems.  So, I don't think it's a conspiracy thing as others have stated, it's just destined that way.

I have also noticed when creating a new MyTeam save; the voice you get when setting up your team seems to determine the path your R&D failures and mechanical failures will take.  There's one particular voice for example I note always results in my first few R&D developments failing.  No matter what I do, with that particular person talking as part of my team there are more R&D failures.  If I restart with one of the middle eastern sounding guys; first few R&D developments pass.  However, if I can get that same voice (it sounds british in a way) it never fails my first few R&D developments fail.  Maybe it's coincidence, but every single time I've had that particular person my first 2 or 3 developments always fail and I usually have a failure in Bahrain too. 

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@petro1319 wrote:

The "best" part of all this is in Race 2 and 3 in your example I bet if you restarted the session in both of those races you'd have the exact same DNF on the exact same lap.  So would any AI failures that weren't accident/crash related.  It's all pre-programmed.

This is 100% truth. I have reloaded sessions before getting the same results. It’s almost as if the game has punished me for finishing well “above my station” in the 1st race…

Fellow conspiracy theorists, you guys are going to love this…

So angered by the situation in my original post, I binned and restarted MyTeam season. 

Race 1, Bahrain, I qualify 14th. Out of the first corner I am up into 8th 😎. The game starts doing all it’s weird things; drivers up ahead of me squabbling for position in corners (and slowing right down, mid-corner just as I’m behind for example). Loads of yellow flags as I get close to overtaking positions etc etc.

I am super good on my tyres. 50% race, and in Bahrain I can do S-M, everyone else doing M-H. Around lap 6, 4 laps before my pit window, SC comes out. I immediately pit for H tyre. Up into 4th after it all settles.

Game realises it needs to hamper me, and the quicker cars are catching up behind. Lap 12 - My DRS fails..

Luckily, I know exactly where and how to defend in Bahrain. Game throws a hissy fit, more yellow flags and another SC comes out around lap 18. I stay out. This time I’m up into 2nd. Overtake Russell for 1st on restart 😎

I manage to keep everyone behind until about lap 22 - another DRS failure hits me…

Luckily I still have enough ERS to defend, and I just about manage. DRS gets fixed 2 laps later.

VER behind is all over me, and I have to resort to playing chicken with DRS zones, just letting him get ahead into them but not enough so I can overtake again with DRS. Enough of a time cushion with the drivers behind him to not worry about them for the moment.

Manage to keep this up until lap 28 of 29. All of the top 3 behind are directly behind me on track now. I Manage to defend most of them but VER gets past into turn 4. RUS and LEC still squabbling for 3rd for the remainder of the lap, slowing them down just enough so I can manage to hold on to 2nd, JUST…

Cannot wait for the DNF’s destined for me because of this this result 😂

As Charles would say “Let’s Goooooooooo” 😎

🖖🏽

TLDR; game chucks loads of obstacles at me when I’m “above my station” in the race 

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@SexyBrigadeiro wrote:
I think it's just how the game is programmed (coded) to be - it's coded to 'cheat' if necessary, just to increase the challenge to the players - which I can understand, but I don't actually agree with it - as I said, we already have the ability to set the AI skill level to match ours and that should be enough, instead of adding some (not so) 'random' stuff to screw up the player, especially when we're already trying pretty hard to beat the AIs - or even if we just want to chill and have fun - if we want a real big challenge, let US (the players) decide and increase the AI level and all other options that can make the game harder - at least this is how I see it..
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@ScarDuck14 wrote:

@Monzstar83I know exactly what you mean. But what’s really annoying. Is where we’re you guys last year? Post after post I made complaining about this. And ok they often ended up being TLDR. And I may have come across as some crazy conspiracy theorist🤪 

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Post some links here - upvotes incoming…

As Charles would say; ”Let’s Gooooooooooooo” 🖖🏽