CMS General Discussion Thread

Frankly, it's all a bit media-hyped as to why Manchester United are supposedly so weak: the answer lies in there being no long term plan, no continuity. If you switch managers every other year and spend millions on yet another batch of players, you'll never get it right. Manchester United are a bit like their stadium, slowly becoming yesterday's news and in a slight state of decay. They don't deserve all the attention, especially if one puts it against the outstanding policy we see on display at Brighton and Villa: those are two very good examples on how to first build a vision, then build a team, then build results - in that particular order.

One shouldn't forget that the magic Erik ten Hag supposedly performed at Ajax, was because of groundwork done in the seven years prior to his arrival. Ajax was already a promising team (final Europa League) and the only thing he managed was for Ajax to do away with salary caps, making it possible to sign the likes of Dusan Tadic and Daley Blind and all of a sudden Ajax were on a roll. So, that whole first step is missing at Man United - no manager can make something decent out of that. An incidental good league or cup run maybe, but nothing structural.

Hi @CO88LER5 so glad you've made it 🙂

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@CO88LER5 wrote:
@Danimal5981
There are a lot of problems at Manchester United, built up since Ferguson retired.
It took Ferguson 5 years to fix the issues then, but that kind of patience doesn't seem to exist anymore.
I do have to say, however, that I don't think ETHs signings so far have been that good. Maybe Lisandro and that's it.
The whole club needs revamping and perhaps he needs to be given time to do that.

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Well, frankly I don't think any Dutchman is suitable to revamp an entire club in England. In Holland the tradion is to split the role of manager, between a head coach and a technical director of football. Ten Hag is most definitely the first and most definitely isn't the latter. So, what Man United ought to have done (and Arsenal was considering it several years prior) was to appeal to coach Ten Hag AND manager Overmars, as a package deal; that might work. But ETH himself on his own is too ill equiped: he's great in whipping youngsters into shape, but to manage an elite football organization is just not for him. So, my advice would be to look for a manager that Ten Hag could work under as head coach, much like Rene Meulensteen did under Alex Ferguson.

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@Stlducks4 wrote:
@Danimal5981Doesn't ETH want all the decision making himself? I thought that was the story when United hired him, he wanted full control.

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Well, there was this early idea that Ralf Rangnick could have continued as a "consultant" or something like that. Pulling the strings behind the scenes. And apparently Ten Hag didn't want him to stay in such a role. This role was also quite unspecified, so there could be many truths to this. I don't know, but I do believe that someone with Rangnick's knowledge of how to build a football club properly would have been useful. First order of business should be to get the ownership situation sorted though. Can't believe we're still waiting for that to happen.

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@Stlducks4 wrote:
@Danimal5981Doesn't ETH want all the decision making himself? I thought that was the story when United hired him, he wanted full control.

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I'm sure that he wants it, but that doesn't make one suitable for it. You need to be open to have an international mindset in order to be able to lead an international foottball organization (or club). I don't think Ten Hag has that: excellent head coach, but not an organizational manager. He's simply too Dutch for it.

Welcome @CO88LER5, good to see you here too. Forum isn't perfect, and it has its small dings and problems here and there, for instance the inability to even post the last two days. But I think that's been sorted now, and small improvements will probably happen along the way to make it better. We did call for a separate CMS section, and we got one, so one can only hope that they'll continue listening to us and provide what we want/need them to.

1. How do you change your name

2. How do you get this forum to jump to the last post you read and not the first post 

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@Ashy9292 wrote:

1. How do you change your name

2. How do you get this forum to jump to the last post you read and not the first post 

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1. Log in at EA.com, log in, go to profile settings, click edit; edit your ID

2. In the segment screen where all subtopics are listed, click on the time of the last reply (example: xx min ago, x hours ago)

Yeah, it speaks for itself, but still: Danimal5981 is no more, I've changed it to my initials DvH5981 (real name: Daniël van Hoven, hence)

Ajax playing AZ right now (0-0, 40')

Ajax bought 12 players, coach only uses three: instead fields seven players from the Academy. Immediately stable, no open house at the back.

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@Danimal5981 wrote:
@Danimal5981fun fact, if message on this forum is written on your phone, you can't edit via PC, or vice versa. Messages can only be edited via original device.

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Are you certain about this, it works fine for me?

Anyone tried create a club yet? Going to do a save with Hereford if it’s the sacking bug is fixed from last year

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@Alastairhufc wrote:

Anyone tried create a club yet? Going to do a save with Hereford if it’s the sacking bug is fixed from last year

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No, haven't tried it. I had 7 or 8 real clubs on my shortlist, so I never really considered creating one myself.

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@Danimal5981 wrote:

Ajax playing AZ right now (0-0, 40')

Ajax bought 12 players, coach only uses three: instead fields seven players from the Academy. Immediately stable, no open house at the back.

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And in the end, Ajax lost again 1-2 😞

Last 7 official games (national league and European games) three draws, four defeats - only 5 points and 16th (!!) in Eredivisie (6 games: 1 win, 2 draws, 3 lost) beneath the relegation line. It has literally never been so bad. Maurice Steijn will be sacked, no doubt about it...

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@Danimal5981 wrote:

And in the end, Ajax lost again 1-2 😞

Last 7 official games (national league and European games) three draws, four defeats - only 5 points and 16th (!!) in Eredivisie (6 games: 1 win, 2 draws, 3 lost) beneath the relegation line. It has literally never been so bad. Maurice Steijn will be sacked, no doubt about it...

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Yeah I saw that. Sorry to hear it mate. Don't recall ever seeing them in the relegation zone.

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@JustinCase0110 wrote:

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@Danimal5981 wrote:

And in the end, Ajax lost again 1-2 😞

Last 7 official games (national league and European games) three draws, four defeats - only 5 points and 16th (!!) in Eredivisie (6 games: 1 win, 2 draws, 3 lost) beneath the relegation line. It has literally never been so bad. Maurice Steijn will be sacked, no doubt about it...

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Yeah I saw that. Sorry to hear it mate. Don't recall ever seeing them in the relegation zone.

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No one has, because we never have been... it's a first.

Worst case scenario: no Ajax in the next edition of the game #disbelief

But maybe Wisla Kraków gets promotion back to Polish Ekstraklasa: *-for-tat

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@Danimal5981 wrote:

No one has, because we never have been... it's a first.

Worst case scenario: no Ajax in the next edition of the game #disbelief

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Well, but what if Ajax were actually relegated, and EA then chose to add a second tier in the Netherlands, so that they - and the stadium - would still be in the game. Aren't they a partner club? This could actually come out as a positive mate. 😉

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@JustinCase0110 wrote:

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@Danimal5981 wrote:

No one has, because we never have been... it's a first.

Worst case scenario: no Ajax in the next edition of the game #disbelief

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Well, but what if Ajax were actually relegated, and EA then chose to add a second tier in the Netherlands, so that they - and the stadium - would still be in the game. Aren't they a partner club? This could actually come out as a positive mate. 😉

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Suspect adding them to rest of the world would be more likely. That's what they did with Rangers (and Wrexham).

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@Alastairhufc wrote:

Suspect adding them to rest of the world would be more likely. That's what they did with Rangers (and Wrexham).

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You're probably right. No need for wishing them to be relegated then. In the end I also really don't see it happening anyway...

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@Stlducks4 wrote:
I remember when Man United and Arsenal first started to drop and have midtable like seasons recently. The fans were in stages of denial and anger before reality set it.

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Man United fan here. Still angry. Still in denial. 😉