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Rcls53
Seasoned Novice
3 years ago

Rewrite your game's netcode

I have had the absolute worst online experience ever in my entire life with FC 24 on PS5. I have, over the course of my life, played Counter-Strike (since 2004), Day of Defeat, World of Warcraft (since 2007), Battlefield, Call of Duty, Warcraft, StarCraft, Brink, Quake, Grand Theft Auto Online.. I have never, ever, experienced such consistently delayed online gameplay in an online game. Considering it is only a two player game on a very small arena with less graphics than any of the games I just listed, that just blows my mind.

FC 24 takes the cake. Every single online game I have lag. It's 0.5s to 2s with every command I issue to my players. And it's clear as day because if I play a Squad Battle locally, it works fine. All players are sharp as a knife. Even better if I just go play career mode for a bit. Go online to a Rivals match, a Champions match or a Friendly and boom. Every single command I issue there is a 0.5-2s delay. My players are sluggish, they start their sprinting late, they pass late, they can't dribble past an opponent and I am absolutely certain it is not my internet.

My internet connection has gone down perhaps twice, and only for an hour max, in the span of 10 years. It is solid. Every game I can see I have 15-18ms, steady, network delay.

It is your netcode. For the love of god, rewrite that portion of the game right now. You seem to be running the same piece of code that you did a decade ago while the rest of the game titles have kept improving theirs. Fighting and RTS games seem to be doing a great job at this.

We used to do 40 man raids in World of Warcraft instances 15 years ago and we NEVER experienced any lag issues. We have never failed because there was lag in the game. Counter-Strike players would lose their minds if there was such delay. Professional StarCraft 2 players hit 300-400 keystrokes a minute and nobody ever complained about lag there.

Yet, in FC 24, it is a constant element of gameplay.

It is absolutely horrible how you treat your customer base. Do any of you even test your own gameplay? Because it feels like you have no quality assurance department in game development based on the content you release, that is clearly filled with bugs. As a software developer myself, I can tell you are not doing a good job with customer feedback to improve the game.

This is such a prevalent problem amongst all players, be it professionals, content creators or casuals, that it just doesn't register with me how this issue is not being dealt with?! I have my suspicions but please prove me wrong!

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  • Rcls53's avatar
    Rcls53
    Seasoned Novice
    3 years ago

    Oh here's a screenshot of my connection quality report from your own site. It's your servers. Fix them. Add more instances, increase the hardware. Or can I apply for a full refund here? I wanted to play a football game, not a card trading game!

  • Same here ping like you game is unplayable all what try to do its 0,5-2 sec delay cant defend or cant attack , players worse than me beat me its sick and frustrating.

  • Rcls53's avatar
    Rcls53
    Seasoned Novice
    3 years ago

    @Kammz_RBKExactly! What really tipped me over was that today I bought a new player from the transfer market and wanted to play, but I went into a Champions qualifier game and somehow I have 1-2s lag all game long! I scored 1-0 easily and my opponent was obviously worse than me, but I just had to spend 85 ingame minutes trying to defend my advantage because I couldn't buidl one attack with that much delay! Every attempt to dribble was easily stopped, passes intercepted, runs catched..

    I am just so frustrated here because I wanted to play this game online and improve on as a gamer, as it's the first football game I bought since 1998, and because sports games on consoles are the best (PS5 was the first console I bought for me and the kids), but FC 24 has made me completely discouraged with EA when it comes to games and it will be the last game I buy from them if they do not address this issue that is affecting gameplay.

    I am not even going to go into how much stuff is still completely broken inside the game and how the new additions to gameplay have ruined the experience for this year, and none of those are being addressed.

  • I know your pain , im frustraded like you , cant normally play with the game... because of this delay 

    i am 33 y old and its enough for me ,

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    Rcls53
    Seasoned Novice
    3 years ago

    I actually digged a bit deeper into game development and what I think I understand now is that the netcode in FIFA games is outdated. Not the servers, the netcode. I have no idea how it's implemented but considering how some fighting games, FPS games and RTS games have been successful at it in the last 10 years, I would hope a company the size of EA could also do it, but I guess not. They really need to rewrite that portion of the game to improve gameplay online and see what other games are doing with theirs. Fighting games seem to have pulled this off somehow and games like StarCraft 2 and other RTS games as well.

    I'm editing the original post a bit to target the right issue, but considering this is an internal part of the game they are not going to fix it. I would think they could do A/B testing, release the rewritten netcode to a selection of users and monitoring feedback, but no. Or even giving people an option to opt in to a beta release of that feature! Feedback based development is really missing here.

  • dmitrinjo's avatar
    dmitrinjo
    New Traveler
    3 years ago

    This game is garbage. Absolutely unplayable. Delay is everywhere 

  • @Rcls53 I have the same problem but it's also happening on squad battles for me but to a lesser extent, all the online game modes are just so heavy and unplayable to the point my ai players don't even follow runs.
    My Internet connection is also really good according to ea so I have no clue how I can get this fixed.
  • LLlIIL22iIIlLLiL's avatar
    LLlIIL22iIIlLLiL
    New Traveler
    8 months ago

    They haven't fixed trash. They just add animation to please the tiktok and ipad kids. 

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