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@CO88LER5 wrote:I was trying a 'second team' to see what they would be like. It included the likes of Bayindir, Maguire, Lindelof, Malacia, Collyer, Antony and so on...
Anyhow, I re-started the career with the scouting, etc., settings I wanted and I am now trying out Amorim's 3-4-2-1 formation. I picked the start date of when he started, i.e., after Ruud's matches.
With the squad I (and he) have got, I can't see it working for long - too many square pegs in round holes. About to play City, which I expect to get beaten against.
In the transfer window to come, I'm going to see whether I can fill some of those round holes, but the career I'm playing will mean cheap 'potential' players, even though the game has rather illogically given me something like £130 million to spend. I'm not going to do anything like that, because I'm in the head space that says two things:
1) we really shouldn't have much money (as in real life)
2) I'm working on the basis that real 'quality' players with a proper career in mind won't come to United at the moment, given how many careers we've destroyed...
Going to be interesting to see how it pans out.
Square pegs in round holes? Are you referring to players playing out of position?
I tend not to pay this too much mind. If a player works in that role in real life IMO, I won't hesitate using him there in the game as well. Mazraoui as a right centerback for instance. I think he has minus 3 in the game, when I put him there. But he's been a top 3 performer in every game under Amorim in that role so far. So that is also where I'll use him, when I play with them in game. I do use the training/player development to adjust him better to the position though.
I agree with you in regards to the £130M being a bit over the top. United already have some good talents in Yoro, Mainoo, Garna, Amad and Højlund, and if you nurture their development and add a few quality players, you could easily assemble a title-winning squad here.
I also started with the 3-4-2-1 formation, but had a hard time getting them to play the way I wanted and the way Amorim seems to want them to play. After a few games I tweaked it some, so it was more a 3-1-4-2 formation with a regular CDM in Ugarte, whilst Bruno dropped a bit to play the CM/CAM next to Mount or Mainoo. The other "number 10" in the system would then have to be used as a striker in this formation, but instructing him to go wide and deep seemed to make it work all right. My results drastically improved, once I used this formation in stead. I've only played a few games though, so it's just my early thoughts about it, trying to get the feel of the Live Start option.
Square peg in round hole does indeed mean the wrong person in the wrong place.
I did get thrashed by City in that formation, so I have taken a pragmatic view and reverted to the 4-2-3-1 formation this squad is more set up for (and I also use my favourite 4-1-3-2 formation). Results have been a bit mixed, but I am 4 points off the top 4, with the top of the table way in the distance, so it is quite realistic.
However, the January window saw me buy 'potential' (staying true to my imagination that established 'top' players would not come at the moment) that will allow me to move towards Amorim's system. I didn't spend all the money, either, but did offload a few existing players to create more spending capability.
Having reached February 2025 and the window shut, I'm just about to return to the 'Amorim style', so I'm looking forward to seeing if I can make it work.
Excellent result yesterday IRL. Maybe his focused training is already starting to work, although there might well be a reality check when they play Arsenal on Wednesday...
- JustinCase01103 months agoSeasoned Ace@CO88LER5 I actually think the Amorim formation suits the current squad quite well. There are plenty of players, who can fit several positions, e.g. Mazraoui as RCB/RWB, Shaw as LCB, LWB, Fernandes and Mount as CM/CAM, Garnacho and Amad as CAM or RWB/RM, Rashford and Zirkzee as CAM/ST etc. This provides a few good options to rotate and use these players in several positions.
I would have the LM/LWB as my first priority myself. Perhaps Alphonso Davies, if he is available, being in his final year at Bayern. Having already signed de Ligt and Mazraoui from them, this could actually make sense. Another option could be Aït Nouri, Miguel Gutiérrez, Alvaro Carreras or one of the Sporting guys; Geny Catamo or Geovany Quenda perhaps. The latter has mostly played on the right so far, but being a left-footer maybe he could also make it on the left.
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