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Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
Julianxxxxxxxxxx
Rising Traveler
4 days ago

Aciddently changed Future Stars Academy Evo items rarity

Hi team, I submitted my 88 Future Stars Evo Rocco Reitz into the TSM++ Evo without thinking about that this will change it‘s rarity and make it unavailable for the next future Stars evo… Is there any way to get this reworked and submit him to the next future stars evo? I would really like to enjoy the nice content around future stars, and this little error would kill the entire fun of the promo for me. So if there‘s any chance that you can help me, I would really appreciate it!

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  • Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
    Julianxxxxxxxxxx
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    AFriskyPigeonThey may have done quite a lot with the tabs - still, they have not done THE most obvious part, with simply making it impossible to submit the cards in other evos if they‘re not supposed to. Sorry, but with good game design an error like this could‘ve easily been prevented.

    And again, in the end it is still of course my own error, but it’s just sad that a tiny error like this kills the promo and the great concept of this evo for me (and many more) because let‘s face it: We can write posts about it all day and promote the easiest solutions possible, but in the end EA won‘t do anything regarding this topic.

  • Andrewrg2 

    Well, unless you know for sure that it tracks previous card types on EA's end, it might not actually be possible. Also, what do you do when someone's put them into Sharp Shooter and now has 88 shooting and Finesse+? Should they be allowed to continue the evo too with the new stats? What about just their PS+? Or is it just people who did the wrong WF or the DLP++ Evo? All of this demonstrates why they won't change rarity restrictions - to restrict Evo chains to stuff that is reasonable and within their control, as has always been the case. Where do you draw the line with it anyway? PS+? Role++? Stat Boosts? Who's allowed to continue the evo chain and who isn't, depending on what evo they did by mistake?

    Reality is the functionality to undo and reverse Evo's would be incredibly useful and something I would have utilised multiple times this year, but it is not necessarily something that can be retroactively implemented unless the existing data to support the functionality is already there. I am not so sure it is.

    Also I've now seen your larger comment block above - I have no disagreement with you on the fact that EA are hopeless at serving the community, as has been evident by their "drop in stocks = better game patch" debacle. The comment you responded to on this thread was about the fact it's an easy mistake to make (which you've subsequently said you agree with) and that I don't think they could change the restrictions on the evo because there are already legacy evos from before the promo which don't have them... which is totally valid.

    My only other comments on other posts have been about how people are saying "the evo is bugged" which it isn't, and pointing out that they've done something else that isn't part of the Evo chain. Apparently that makes me "defending EA" when all i'm actually doing is "pointing out what has actually happened" and that it isn't a bug issue. I'm not 100% on what on earth you took initial disliking to, but if you see everything as so black and white that actually root causing an issue makes me a defender of EA, I don't know what to tell you.

    Surely telling people "no the evo isn't bugged, you just put them in the wrong one" so that they instead know to 

    a) pay more attention to evo restrictions and card rarities and

    b) complain about their perceived "lack" of adequate warnings

    ... is a good thing, no?

  • Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
    Julianxxxxxxxxxx
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    AFriskyPigeonactually former card types have to be tracked in some way because at least Evos receive the upgrades if there base card is a live card like RTTK etc.

  • AFriskyPigeon's avatar
    AFriskyPigeon
    Rising Rookie
    3 days ago

    Julianxxxxxxxxxxas I've said before, that part would prevent people from putting the FS Evo card into any of the other unrestricted evolutions, which they are more than entitled to do if they so wish. Want a Nwaneri with 88 shooting, a low rating and Finesse+ to put into another Evo down the line, perhaps because you're going away for 2 weeks tomorrow? You wouldn't be able to with your proposal, and would instead be forced into grinding out every objective and subsequent evo to get to the 92, which you may not actually want to do as it cannot have Finesse+. Either that or settle for the 84 rated card. 

    Freedom to put the card into any Evo is a Feature, not a Bug.

    I do totally understand where you're coming from in your second point though, I do hope for your sake that they can do something as you're right, it does kill the promo a bit. All my original comment was pointing out is that modifying the existing evos to have this restriction is not likely to be something they could do now, given a little time has passed and some people may still want to do them like that. Apparently that makes me an EA shill.🤷‍♂️

  • Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
    Julianxxxxxxxxxx
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    Get your first point, although I still think they could‘ve done better on that - one possibility would be a restriction to that evo, the other would be more cards to choose than just one. And again: I don‘t say it is an error, I just want to make suggestions on how they could‘ve handled the whole Evo better - which in this case means more understandable.

    I get that being able to put the Card in EVERY Evo available is a good thing in general. However, in this case it is not very intuitive that there will be more and more evos coming after you finished the possible ones that are available currently. So for me, a little more restriction would’ve propably been helpful for large parts for the community. Or let‘s state it the other way: it would‘ve helped far more people than it would‘ve hurt. 

  • Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
    Julianxxxxxxxxxx
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    AFriskyPigeonsharpshooter evo gives +3 rating btw, so I think it‘s impossible to fit them in any of the ffs evos available anyways. And for me personally, I don‘t think one DLP++ and / or silver rapid / block will be gamebreaking.

  • Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
    Julianxxxxxxxxxx
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    They could have limited at least the DLP++, WF and Rapid/Block Evo which usually doesn’t affect the availability of further evolutions for the card.

    The thing is, we‘re coming from a different approach: 

    What you say is that it was all written out in the Evo and all of the Evos work technically fine. That is 100% correct, but still not the reason for my post (would‘ve also posted it in bug reports if that wasn‘t the case).

    What I say is that there is quite a number of players that do currently have an issue, that could‘ve been a) prevented by a more intuitive game design and b) corrected with multiple possible easy, non-gamebreaking solutions, which would bring the fun back for all of us. And as I said: I agree, that they can’t allow all of them to continue like nothing happened (f. e. the sharpshooter evo), but those potentially broken paths are killed with the rating requirement anyways.

  • I agree with your comments Julianxxxxxxxxxx, any comments that sound in disagreement aren't aimed at your post specifically. My initial comment was in response to someone else's suggestion of reversing it or changing the requirements, which I don't think is feasible from a coding point of view, let alone the fact it'd be a sudden implementation of a currently non-existent mechanic.

    I can be in agreement with you about them reversing it being a good thing for the community, whilst also pointing out flaws in proposals (like restricting evolution types), pointing out the warnings already in place (rarity requirements being listed, prior warning of the resultant card rarity, separate Evo sections etc), and calling out those who claim to have not messed up and are claiming it's a bug when they have messed up (I know this last point is not applicable to you).

    Reality is, a more in-your-face warning in game for any staged evolution card types would be beneficial for specific promos like this, but this particular phenomenon is nothing new - it is something that has been a potential in a lot of previous "staged" evolutions (like anyone who put a cosmetic on the TOTY CB Evo before finishing it, for example), as well as any specific rarity evos (like icon, TOTW or squad mastery) that you can't do if you've used a cosmetic or other evo. On that basis, I think it'll just be ignored.

  • Julianxxxxxxxxxx's avatar
    Julianxxxxxxxxxx
    Rising Traveler
    3 days ago

    Yeah, the difference from this evo to the toty cb one for example is, that this one had plenty of options due to the low rating of the card. I think for the toty one, it might‘ve only been like „real“ cosmetic ones as f. e. the season evo. Liked this more, because with the current evo it is very much tempting to just quickly add one Role ++ or stuff like this. Not very intuitive.

  • firstly I picked the wrong evolution SM+ instead of WF+ for my De Winter because of bug with naming then I accidentally used the wrong evolution and made him as Evolution II instead of future star evolution. 

    I was really enjoying to do the evolution and now I’m completely frustrated and do not want to play the game anymore. Nobody help us with the issue there is no hope

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