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Thegrannyrule's avatar
2 years ago
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Cheating algorithm in online modes

The algorithm is cheating in online modes to favour weaker players, in VSA the weaker teams get the better chances, and the goal keepers pull off impossible saves, 

it’s the same in H2H the players misplace passes if it’s going to lead to a goal scoring chance, they over power trough balls, shots and pass when on the attack, they refuse to jump for headers, run into positions, when you shoot it’s off the post, bar, wide or the keeper pulls off an impossible save, if your in space the player will artificially delay the shot so the opponent can get a block or a save, then it will set you up for 1-0 loss with last minute winner that somehow you can’t seem to defend, your player wins the tackle but the ball still ends up back at the feet of of the attacking player, or it’s from a corner or a free kick where your defender doesn’t jump, or clears the ball right in to the feet of the attacking player, this can also happen at the start of the game and you spend the rest of game sending shot after shot off the post, wide or into the keepers hands. 

I’ve complained about this in detail including video to customer help but they won’t do anything they just keep passing it on the next the operator that refuses to do there job and read message tread so you have to explain it all over again it’s ridiculous, 

in short the algorithm is artificially creating mistakes in the game play to favour opponents in order to limit my progress, is there any solution to this issue? 

  • HippoRyder3454's avatar
    HippoRyder3454
    2 years ago

    @mertalbay  No need to be a *. @mendozzamagic  Does a lot for the forums and is the only one of hear that gives us answers to or questions and problems. he’s the only one that gets feedback from the devs. 

    A lot of what you guys are talking about isn’t due to the “algorithm”. Like he has said MM is broken and isn’t working properly. Like I have tried to explain that your connection plays a huge part in how the game plays for you. Most of the problems you guys are complaining about I had last season and then I got my WiFi fixed and those problems disappeared. 

    My point is don’t attack the one guy on here that’s on our side and is just passing a long the info that’s he’s got from being in communication with the devs. 

    You want to be angry be angry at the higher up in EA, which are the ones that make all the decisions on the quality of the game. 

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  • 17a3851c96ad6c7's avatar
    17a3851c96ad6c7
    2 years ago

    And the most recent thing - my own players running away from a pass or just missing the ball even though the pass is perfect.

    There is also free kicks where i pass a player and he moves away from the position and the ball goes out over the line.

  • I honestly agree with everything described. Im going crazy loosing by mistakes made by the AI.

    I recognize each and every example from giving a assist to the opponent by passing them with a weak header, blocking own shots, not making the tackle and allowing the opponent a shot, or taking the ball 3-4 times and still the ball is going back to the opposition.

    The absolute worst is when it happens consequtive, 4-5 "mistakes" in a row that sets up the goal.

  • Thegrannyrule's avatar
    Thegrannyrule
    2 years ago

    @mendozzamagicI’m sorry mate but you used that human nature excuse last season which was BS then and still is today, but this season EA has changed the game where team seem to be artificially creating mistakes that favour opponents after you win a few H2H games or get to certain level, mistakes like your player makes a great tackle where the ball still ends up with the opponent, or a pass that is intercepted by an opponent because your player didn’t pass it in the direction you instructed him too, or the 4th pass bug where you players make great 3 fast passes but refuse to make the 4th when it’s going to create a goal scoring chance, or the down right refusal to shoot for a certain goal, or the refusal to tackle when defending again an opponent, or the slide tackle that sets up the opposition for a goal, or corner clearance that sets up the opponent for a shot, or goalkeeper pass that gives the ball straight to opposition, or the one that seems to be added back in with todays update where if there is a chance that the opponents defence is not going to get a block in for a shot on goal then don’t stress your own player will block the shot so you can’t score, the algorithm is set up so can’t progress passed a certain level, it will let go up to certain level then it will bring you straight back down, for me it seems to capped at mid L2 in H2H, so I get to about 850,000 then the AI won’t let me win a game until I’m relegated to L1 no matter the opposition or how much you dominate the game it just let you win, it’s the same cycle the whole time, it’s so obvious that your cheated by the games algorithm

  • tokyolegoguy's avatar
    tokyolegoguy
    2 years ago

    Case in point- say what you want about manager mode functionality but I dominated this game- 53% possession doesn’t tell the story- missed a couple sitters and opponent gets draw with a goal on his only shot and the final kick of the game except for the ensuing kickoff. 

  • mendozzamagic's avatar
    mendozzamagic
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @tokyolegoguy Manager mode is broken - there are all sorts of problems with the AI in it which mean that teams don’t perform as expected - there is no script to it, it just doesn’t work properly.

    Case in point - one day my 95 OVR team will jump three levels to FC champ, another day it will drop three - there is no consistency and it has nothing to do with the quality of the opponent … it’s just random.

    If n VSA - the chance distribution is random and is buckets of 10, so yeah sometimes you get dealt crappy hand with the extra couple of chances while the opponent gets lucky … you do t really notice that when you are mid stage though, but you do when you are close to the threshold of the next stage.

    It’s also human nature to get more tense as you near the next threshold, boss level, rank or whatever … which can impact your gameplay, perhaps even minutely, which with such small margins for error can make a difference.

    Sometimes it feels like the game is engineered to make us lose, but honestly the game engine is just not that smart!
  • There are definitely things that happen as a pattern, which would indicate it is the algorithm. Main 2 for me: in VSA the number of poor “good” chances increases dramatically the further you get promoted up. in manager mode there are A LOT of last minute goals to win or tie at over 45 or 90 minutes without even any actual stoppage time added. Also in manager mode, sometimes your team is just firing and sometimes they’re awful. I realize success has to do with the opponent and their system of course, but I’m talking about easy plays like random first touches that just go wayward and you lose the ball, simple passes under no pressure that miss the teammate by a mile and go out of bounds. 

  • @Thegrannyrule There is no EA script to make things easier or harder based on your relative position/rank/time of day etc … there are some really bad “good” chances in VSA, which if you get unlucky are harder to score than basics - some were removed in the latest update and it has gotten better - the whole VSA thing is being looked at though because the buckets of 10 can result in manifestly unfair distributions of those last 3 or 4 attempts (ie the second bucket)

    H2H can lag for many many reasons, the most likely being distance for the server, your local connection traffic, the distance your opponent is from you (and the server) and (especially during widespread holiday periods and weekends) traffic on the EA servers.

    It is what it is - if EA put more money into the game then maybe some of those things would be better … but then you would also likely be paying a monthly subscription 🫣

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