CANNOT EDIT PHYSIQUES IN FRANCHISE

Ps5. It's every player that's auto generated ( draft classes) . Franchise mode. It's sounds like everyone is having this issue across all platforms. 

I was trying to edit some players in an imported draft class, same issue. I id the yr 1 draft then tried to edit appearance/physique/gear and nothing stuck. Only thing I could change was their names, schools, and height/weight physically. Ratings, contracts, etc. still ediable.

Ok, so I have edited almost every player in league, and here is what I have found:

QB

Take off flack jacket

put on back plate

For most QB;s their chest and gut are at lowest level but are actually the biggest. Another detail that makes no sense and has been this way for years. Usually when you take something down, it gest smaller, but the dev's at Madden don't get hung up on details like that. But I do. 

So take the chest value to the far right and gut up as you see fit. 

You can make the calves bigger, and although it will default to 0 (far left) the calves will stay a little bigger. 

Now before you change the weight, back out and save the player. Sometimes when you lower the QB's weight they get bigger, sometimes they get smaller. So just play around with it until you find what you are looking for. 

RB

Unless you want them to get significantly smaller, do not change their weight. Take off back plate, and change to small pads, and then same for QB, take chest level all the way up and adjust gut as you like.

WR & DB

DO NOT CHANGE THEIR WEIGHT. If you do this they will get bigger, and their shoulder pads will get be huge no matter what you do, especially if they are a smaller receiver. The weight has no bearing on how a player looks form 160lbs, to almost 250lbs. It is pathetic and I have no idea how it hasn't been fixed. The people that make this game pay such little attention to the little things it drives me crazy. I should not be more into making the game better than the people that get paid to do it, but here we are. 

So chest and gut maxed, and once again do not change the weight. 

TE

Take weight down a little if you would like here, but a warning, they will all look kind of the same, but it does look a little better. 

Chest maxed, gut as you wish. 

OL & DT

Be careful with the weight here. Once you get to 322lbs, the player model changes a lot. If a player is 295lbs - 320lbs, I take them up to 322 and adjust the gut to make them look a little more realistic. If a player is over 320lbs I don't change the weight and adjust the gut.

Now you want to take chest all the way down, because now moving the chest and gut levels down makes them smaller, this is insane right? How do these people have jobs. I could have this cleaned up in a week. 

DE & LB

Most of the time I just take the weight down a little, and same as the others, chest maxed, and gut whatever you like. It is hard with the players in this weight group because once you get the weight under 250-260, they really don't change much so this one is more of a preference thing. 

Well I know this isn't perfect, but it is something. Hope this helps a little. The player editor had always been bad, but this is the worst I have ever seen. I am obsessed with making players look like they do in real-life, but this year it has been a challenge to put it nicely. Most years I just have to adjust the weight, and that takes care of it, but that is not the case any longer. It is impossible.

I think the main problem is the shoulder pads on the smaller players. This is really bad because WHO wants bigger shoulder pads on players? NO ONE, but there are large and extra large shoulder pad options, but not extra small. This is another detail that if the people who make the game actually watched just one football game they would know that players all have small shoulder pads. Every player. The other is the chest size on smaller players. This is just a mess and they need to fix it. I'm done because I am starting to get angry. 

So is EA just ignoring this issue?  I mean I only play franchise and this issue has made the game unplayable for me!  Actual game play is very good in my opinion but if I cant build my team up through the draft what is the point.  I dont need a skinny guy wearing number 11 playing LT when I draft Joe Alt!  This really has me scared to spend $200 on Madden and College Football next year!  

Is there any way I could maybe help with this issue? I 100% guarantee I have spent more time editing players the past 5 years than anyone that works on the game, and I will do it for free. I know what the players look like in real life because I watch football from 11 in the morning on Saturday until Monday night. I am the best person in the world to do this!! 

Ok, here is what you do:

Get rid of the sliders for player physique, instead do small, medium, large body types given a players height and weight.

So let's say a player is 6-0 190, you will have a general player body type based on those measurements. But then for each individual input; gut, chest etc., you will also have the small medium and large options. This way there aren't as many options and ways it can go wrong. 

This also works because you can develop rules for players solely based on height and weight. For example, a 200lb RB with a large arms will look much different than a 300lb OL with large arms. And a DE with small arms would just mean they are well-defined and not actually small like they would be on a WR. 

Take Bryce Young And Kyler Murray as a good test. 

Bryce Young is listed at 5-10 204

Kyler Murray is listed at 5-10 207

But they look very different, so Bryce would be small for all inputs and Kyler would be large for all inputs. Large doesn't have to mean crazy big. It can mean large compared to what the average player of similar height and weight look like.

This is the easiest way to move forward with player physique, and if implemented in NCAA Football it can be a seamless transition for players imported from one game to another because there are simple rules based on height and weight. Oh, and get rid of shoulder pad height options and make them all extra small, or make the default extra small (and when chest gets bigger, shoulder pads shouldn't get 3x taller).

Or you could just get rid of the physique altogether and just do the small, medium and large body type based on height and weight. 

Look, I know I am annoying, but this would work. I promise you it will work. 

So I don’t think this issue is going to get fixed. I have seen this happen many times before. There is a major issue with the game, and they say they are aware of the issue but nothing gets done.

There has to be something we can do? Is it legal to put out a product that doesn’t do what it says it will do? Can I at least get a refund? I wish I had the time and resources to file a proper lawsuit against this terrible company that has somehow managed to have a monopoly on NFL “simulation” games. There is no way this would hold up in court if someone challenged it. I’m pretty sure it is impossible to have a patent on NFL simulation games. 

If anyone is interested in taking some kind of action, even if it’s just getting out money back, let me know. They have to at least do that, being as the game is defective. 

Me too. I payed to play early and got an unplayable franchise mode where drafts are busted with player bodies that make no sense. What, three weeks later and still no fix or updates? This is awful.

Yo AndreacJ19, yeah this is crazy. I don't even know what to do at this point. I think most of the people in this thread have given up. The issues are everything related to player physiques, not just the draft class. I did chat with an EA representative regarding a refund because of the editing players situation, and he assured me that it won't be necessary. Now I don't believe him...Not because of anything he said, I just don't have any faith that this issue is actually being addressed, and if it is there must be something really wrong. 

Since the moderators are back, any information on whether or not this issue will be fixed? I like the gameplay but it’s just nothing else in the game works as intended.