Re: Why doesn't Madden 23 PC have the same features as current generation console?

@o---DaVeX---o  just invest in maximum football, they are moving to the unteal engine and listening to their fan base. Franchise is deep in the game only the game play in matches is a bit bad, but since EA isn't investing in us why should we in them and not in the competition?  Unlike EA thinks a lot of PC gamers are fed up with their strategy but lets wait for the official statement of EA, but have no hope they will have a logical explaination of this since there is none. Dev time, 365 days and PS5/XBOX were trying to be more dev friendly and have a verry similar approach to coding as PC games have. Hardware, a simple gaming PC most of the times outclasses a PS5/XBOX with ease. The early stage of the consoles: been released back in 2020/2021 so thats not an issue.

PC is one of the reasons they are as big as they are today, it feels as a loyal EA fan (have had almost all base games they have released on PC including madden 21/22) as a shot in the back. No way to make this a logical situation, mods are currently out performing what madden 23 with a price tag of 60 dollars will do next year. 

I have ended my EA play, and won't buy anything from this publisher again untill they fiz this situation. (With exeption of F1 since codemaster as game studio isn't filled with greed YET)

@EA_Blueberry any word from the company yet? Its been more than a day now, or don't we get a reply in the weekend?

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@o---DaVeX---o wrote:

Since it's now confirmed PC does NOT get any of the next gen features yet again, a better question is what ARE we getting for the PC version that justifies charging up to $99 for this copy / paste game on Steam?  A roster update?  A throwback tribute cover of John Madden?  This is absolutely ridiculous.  Last Madden I actually bought was in 2016 when I had a PS.  Ditched that platform long ago as PC gaming is just better in countless ways.  Last Madden I played was '22 because I could add it to my library for free with my $5/mo. EA Play account.  Even then I uninstalled it after a couple days due to it not having any of the next gen features.  I won't be buying this for PC yet again if the devs care this little about our platform.  Good lord.

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@o---DaVeX---o 

Relaying my response in another thread I posted earlier regarding a forum user that had similar feedback:

We hope to see you on the field with us this season, whether it is at the start or at a later time. The game is still much more than a roster update as it will features updated content for other modes as well which is factored into the experience you'll have in Madden 23 this season.

If you are looking for a discounted rate, your best option for value on PC is the EA Play Pro membership. 

EA Play Pro is $99 for an entire year and you also get access to other new EA titles. As well as a huge library full of games. If you are a MUT player, you also receive 500 points per month for a whole year. So if you're a heavy MUT player on PC, in my opinion, going that route is a no brainer because of the advantages you get with points, 10% MUT discount,  and your MUT bonus Welcome Pack. Even if you're not a MUT fan though, having a library of the latest EA games and other options to play throughout the year is about the same cost as single games these days. 

EA Play Pro Members

• Full access to the Madden NFL 23 EA Play Pro Edition beginning August 16, 2022
• 500 Madden Points with each monthly Madden NFL 23 log-in from August 2022 – July 2023**
• Score a Launch Welcome Pack in Madden NFL 23 Ultimate Team
• Claim monthly Ultimate Team Pack and Vanity rewards tied to in-game seasonal programs
• Get 10% off purchases of EA digital content

@EA_BlueberryThis might be one of the most tone-deaf replies I've seen from a CM. Next you're going to ask us, "Don't you guys have phones?"

@EA_Blueberrycan you respond to TWJanssen's question?

@EA_Blueberry still waiting on that answer. 

It's been over 2 weeks and we can't even get a half assed excuse from EA on why PC is being left out again. Yea, I'm done with this company

@Roninx007 @EA_Blueberry Yep, 2 weeks no excuses yet, you ask them questions and even on simple questions they can't answer. They don't have any interest in us as consumers. Sad to see a once great company fail at so many things.

tbh the fieldsense and next gen features are hardly even noticeable 

@BestShowonTurf1 Don't even go there. The character models are much better. The physics is much better., but its none of those things that actually matter

Madden, like everything else, should scale well above console.

We should be getting the best version of the game, BY FAR, but I'd settle just to actually be able to play it above 60fps in native 4k.

It should release with console settings as medium and go up to ultra. 

If it was not for this feature , I would not have played Madden at all the past 2 years. I pay your 25$ subscription to play for a month, which doesn’t bother me because the lack of new features and diversity doesn’t keep my attention for more than that.  

after finding out PC is still going to be last gen technology , I will be doing the same most likely , or not at all to be honest. It’s astonishing how much PC players get left behind and forgotten when it comes to sports games. 

@cis0Yea. I think EA and 2k are just lazy.
I believe we will see MLB the show on PC next year, which would be phenomenal. That game is just begging for a native 4k/high frame rate experience, and Sony is going all in on PC ports. The complete opposite attitude of madden and 2k devs, I guess.

What 2k and madden devs are underestimating, is just how many people ditched consoles and built PC's in the last 2 years. They can not use 10-year old games to guage interest. No one is buying that stuff. Even with my 3090, I can not polish a ****(madden "23")

@EA_Blueberry Will you respond to any of this or just leave it like this? Any word why fifa is next gen and madden isn’t since can’t be that hard if I see the fifa specs?

He can't do anything as he has no say in what the Devs say or do, he can only forward our concerns. I don't think he fully understands what the issue is though that's for sure. Be it I didn't get a response for such a large issue I'd say my piece to the public and quit because all he's there for is to take BS from the community. This whole thread is falling on deaf ears. Community Managers=Community Handlers. I.E. 'We don't have an answer right now but please buy EA pro in the mean time'

@fonzo04 I know he is in no way responsible for this shitshow. He is just the community manager. But it is just sad he is not responding to our questions. He can ask devs we don’t.

I’m honestly so frustrated considering there’s no reason PC wouldn’t be able to run madden with the next gen features. We’re basically getting the features held back for no understandable reason (at this moment at least). Just frustrating.

The irony in all of this is if you play EA's FIFA 23 on PC, you are getting FieldSense and cross play in September. How is the Madden team allowed to screw this up so much? Just mirror what the FIFA team is doing to update the PC version. 

Yep full access to Madden 23 on PC but wait .... it's essentially Madden 21 with almost none of the benefits of the future "next gen" versions! DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY BUYING MADDEN 23 ON PC.

I can't believe PC users are getting treated this way. There's no way I'm going to go out and spend hundreds of $$ on the latest generation XBox of PS when I have a PC that cost thousands of $$ and way more computing and graphics power than any of the so called "next gen" platforms. On top of that, your EA Pro Membership only entitles you to 10% discount when playing on the "next gen" platforms so add even more money to the upgrade cost.

Up yours EA!. You take Madden 23 and stick it where the sun doesn't shine! I will not play this game again until PC users are treated with the respect and dignity that is deserved and have the same version with ALL the features so called "next gen" platforms receive.

The cynic in me suggests this is nothing more than a $$$ grab agreement between EA, Microsoft and Sony to try force people across to their latest products for the sake of EA's bottom line.