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8 years ago

Andromeda sold high but missed high

Just saw this video on the sales figures of ME:A 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj6St0tbaGI

His assumptions seem legit and believable to me. ME:A seem to have sold / will sell around 3-4 million copies, but EA aimed for 9. 

For me, personally, I like the game, but it suffers from so many and so typical BioWare issues.

# It screws over the lore.... again

# It puts too much emphasis on details that are inot relevant

# It puts too little emphasis on needed details 

# It executes its story progression poorly

# It focusses too much on being able to f*** everyone in the galaxy and less about unique and realistic approach to the first contact with aliens 

# It has an insane amount of bugs

# It values relationship development far too high and exploration far too low. 

# It has lackluster horde mode multiplayer bs

# It has forum moderators that mostly do the Sean Spicer and go hide in the bushes once it gets rough

# It has a publisher that seems to only listen when the sales figures are right

# It has - stupid - game mechanics

# It has terrible scaling from easy to hard

At least it wasn't dumbed down like Mass Effect 3 

Despite all of the above, I still liked the game, because - as frustrating as it was, it had potential and as a part of a greater saga, I could see that.

But if this is the end now and this game has to stand on its own....... it is terrible.

I guess EA will reboot the series a couple of years from now with a new team and having learned all the wrong lessons from this.

Let's face it. Mass Effect 1 was a great game and I love it for bringing me to this universe and Mass Effect 2 was the peak of the series and still is one of the best games of all times...... but we will not get back there. That ship has sailed. 

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  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
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    Very interesting, but I haven't checked his sources myself. Just because it sounds plausible doesn't need to be even close.

    That being said I am inclined to follow his views, mostly because I agree that companies like EA sometimes have a massive discrepancy between their target expectations and market reality (=> competition).

    If I remember correctly ME1 did not perform as well as Bioware expected, what maybe lead to its sell-off to EA. But after that modest start of Andromeda ... maybe someone at EA remembers and thinks of it as a good sign :ealight_bulk:

    Now to my view of ME:

    I personally stand my ground that ME3 is now (including all DLCs) the best ME part.

    It has best graphics, best game mechanics, a PvE team orientated MP, weapon mods and levels and an end to the epic journey of Shepard.

    ME2 is great (and I perfectly understand that most say it's the best part; for me it lacks many things that were fixed in ME3 though) and I still like ME1 (even after 10 years!).

  • Anonymous's avatar
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    8 years ago
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    There is a lot they miss with their so called 'target'.

    There is things like, me alone knows about 4 or 5 people who badly wanna play this game but currently don't have a PC thst will run it - and can't afford to upgrade. We are in financially difficult times for a lot of people. Sales figures even arent always a good judge of popularity. How many right now are in the same position? Wanting the game but lacking a platform to play it on due to finaces.

  • Anonymous's avatar
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    8 years ago
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    Yeah, and here in my country, with political scandals happening only too often, dollar is spiking up again. If the game follows suit the variable exchange, it'll be impractical buying the thing.

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    8 years ago
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    I have a feeling they really need to stall on moving games up platforms and PCs for a while, so people have a chance to catch up again or sales will drop even more. Not so many can afford the latest platforms arm. Once our current PCs in our house arent viable we wont be able to afford new ones for a while and they are a few years old now. We used to be able to keep up but uust can't right now.

  • Anonymous's avatar
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    8 years ago
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    Then build your own and buy mid end stock. 

    Simple.. Buy a decent box, psu.  cheap motherboard, ram.  Decent cpu when you can.  Since Cpu is everything.  Gpu really isn't important.   All our video cards are like ready for games in 4 years time now.  When it comes to building it, buy a decent keyboard and mouse.. and you're sorted.  Spread cost over time and buy only where everyone else on avg say's is good enough.   Problem with video cards is they tend to stay quite high price for a long time.   So buy them seperately.

    They haven't even made games that can utilise most of the mid/high end cards.

    As for the game.. meh.. I don't really have any issues with it. 

    Probably the main issue for me, is really the lack of interaction with your team, lack of customisation, lack of powers.. etc. 

    The bugs don't really bother me, unless they're fatals.   The glitches make the game funny..

    But I'm very forgiving of games now.  Given up expecting professionalism from developers.

    As for EA.. well besides the 2nd worst customer service on the planet.. they're owned by steam on that account.  Don't really have an issue with them either, business is to make money.. if they were as bad as many people claimed.. they'd be as bankrupt as most of the companies they've bought over..

    Same goes for other big publishers/devs like Blizzard, 2k etc.. As for the price of games.. they've always been dirt cheap.

    Most softwares cost around £500+ for a single licence.. it's only in the last 5 yrs or so they've kinda dropped abit.  WinXp cost me £700 a licence on release and people are complaining about the cost of games.. be thankful they're cheap.. the sheer cost of buying office software and multi licences for running a business are insane.   Which in turn drives all your production figures up.. then your wages.. and misc million other costs. 

    People need to remember also, that you're not really paying for this game.. but you're also paying in advance for the development of all future games that company makes.. they don't get paid until they release it.

    It isn't like farming.. and 2 crops a year.. or just having a job and getting paid monthly.. these guys are paid every 3-5 years.. mistakes like biowares.. small wonder they were bought out, stripped down.. and so on.  The might make good games, but they also need to make money.

    And everyone wants it cheaper.. than last time... this is why there's bugs in games on release.. why they cut corners.. the very people complaining.. are the ones who are to blame.

  • Anonymous's avatar
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    8 years ago
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    We always build our own PCs. Hubby did IT in university and is also a game programmer.

    We know what we are doing here BUT a decent upgrade still costs on average of 1.5k. We both have PCs so to upgrade both, 3k. New consoles when released cost around 600 to 800 and so on. May not seem like much to some but on a single income family with a kid in school etc its a lot. Then the game cost 100 for the delux edition. 89 for the normal. What im saying is.. all that money is a lot. More than many can afford. The upgrade of a single PC costs just under our entirely fortnightly household income - thats a lot, really for most families in australia and other countries. Thats with building our own.

    The last time we upgraded, we got top of the range systems that still hold their own for the time being but not for much longer.. that was 6yrs or so ago not long after our daughter was born. Way before she started school. We have savings but she will be in year 3 next year, school camps and other such expenses will start to crop up. Normal things most families have to deal with. Hubs car is also getting on and will need changing etc. Its the way of life, normal, average income families are struggling to keep up now. In the past couple of years the cost of electricity has over doubled and so on. Landrates have gone up. Water rates and so forth. Spare cash a thing of the past.

  • Anonymous's avatar
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    8 years ago
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    Yeh same over here in uk, have 3 pc's, my son's one is brand new, mine is 3yrs old, wifes is 6.

    Just got an RX470 for my pc, to upgrade the R9280 that I had before, I waited maybe 6 months, trolling through websites, amazon, ebay & various other cheap internet shops until someone had a sale on.  Got the card for same price as the next range down.  AMD have just released the 5x series, so that's pushing out old stock.

    And that's really how you have to do it, keep looking for new stock pushing prices down, wait for black friday sales, january sales etc.. but what you can afford, save something put it aside.. and so on.  Only people with lucrative incomes or no kids.. can afford to just go and buy stuff.. son's pc so far has cost around £1200.  If I paid for it as a single unit, it'd probably cost around £1600.  So saved a little, but took nearly 8 months doing it.

    As for buying the best v mid level.. I used to want the best only, aiming high all the time, but then ended up with a singular problem, speed of your cpu, motherboard etc.. not important.  What that cpu/motherboard/gpu supports is.  And when you need to change hardware is usually because new games etc, require new support systems.. ie Dx 9 >> Dx11>> Dx12.. and so on.  Multi Threading.. does it support 2 screens.. does it have powered usb 2.0 or newer 3.0 does it support xx rambus speeds.. and so on.  So I changed to buying the better end of mid level, i5's not i7s.. why? cost.. and there's almost no difference in the end speed of either cpu.  Does paying an extra £200 really make those extra 10 fps important?

    Reality is, most games... & that includes the likes of BF, GTA, ME:A, Civ6 etc.. they don't need an i7.. so why buy one.  If you aren't going to make videos or do alot of streaming or hosting games, running servers etc.. you don't need a motherboard that costs another £100.. with 4 ram banks.. if you are only getting 16gb of ram.. you don't need 3200 ghz ram when you can use 1600 and pay half or less.

    But when games require you to access the next level of support.. it can literally mean you can't play it until you have it.  So I buy supporting hardware, not the fastest or best.. because I don't need that.

    I also have skillz 😉

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