Evil Corporations the Benefactor?
Besides TIM, the Consort and the shadowbroker, has anyone mentioned Exogeni Corporations (E-corp for future references)? It's a company that specializes in exploration and colonisation. They help fun...
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@fudgietroll wrote:I kind of like the idea that the Benefactor, or at least 1 or more of the groups mentioned, is still en route, because that opens up a bunch more story options🥳, but if you just want individuals that could be in Andromeda at the start of ME:A that's fair. After all it's at least 85% probable that Jien was killed by the Benefactor or minions.
There has been some speculation that a TIM clone is involved in the Benefactor program, and if that is true he (TIM or clone) could be in Andromeda from the start.
Similarly, Shiira could have sent an acolyte back to the Citadel under her identity, or if she were a Thorian thrall she could have had a Thorian clone return in her place. Either way she could also be in Andromeda from the start.
Liara killed the Yahg Shadow Broker, so if a Shadow Broker is involved it would have to be the
Yahgfather👿 previous Shadow Broker Liara assumed was dead. And they could be anywhere.Henry Lawson was in ME3 too, but he would probably have sent a clone-daughter instead to secure his genetic destiny (you really think he stopped with the two missing ones, unless he needed Miranda/Oriana to be the perfect womb for his perfect progeny?😮☹️)
Terra Firma is a completely legal political party with strong pro-human views that Shep can endorse, oppose, and, if a spacer, promise to vote for. If they are in any way connected to Cerberus it is the sort of relationship exemplified by Sinn Fein and the IRA.🤐
I personally am with you on not having SAM as the Benefactor. Its a bit of a stretch, and there are more interesting options.
Maybe the Asari Leadership (not counting Aethyta) have always rubbed me the wrong way, but their actual philosophy seems more like the Asari are in charge but we'll let the other races pretend otherwise. (I may have felt a little but of vengeful justice when the Reapers hit Thessia, see where leaving everyone to die gets you Jerks!😬)
There is this really confusing note that could be found in the kett temple addressing the benefactor or a benefactor which suggest that this "benefactor" is doing well in EOS. Let me look for it and I will post it here again below... Could be The Benefactor of the Andromeda Initiative but some speculate its another kett that is a benefactor to the person who wrote the note. confusing as hell and in my opinion if it's not The Benefactor being addressed, then Bioware writers really did a poor job. It's like calling someone sneaky Mr Illusive when there's already an illusive man in the series. Talking about clones, am still wondering if Shep's clone survived the fall lol. Though unlikely, I sure wouldnt mind a clone of the illusive man though, especially if it's still voiced by Martin Sheen.
Agreed on the Asari, some do seem a little elitist. If you played the citadel DLC, those 2 Asari in the casino fits the bill, but well cant generalise an entire population based on those 2 I guess lol. Well they do have something in common with the Hannar... They both worship the Protheans lol! Ok back to the benefactor. What you mentioned about the Asari does fit the bill of the benefactor's MO as well.
@VladVonCastein wrote:There is this really confusing note that could be found in the kett temple addressing the benefactor or a benefactor which suggest that this "benefactor" is doing well in EOS. Let me look for it and I will post it here again below... Could be The Benefactor of the Andromeda Initiative but some speculate its another kett that is a benefactor to the person who wrote the note. confusing as hell and in my opinion if it's not The Benefactor being addressed, then Bioware writers really did a poor job. It's like calling someone sneaky Mr Illusive when there's already an illusive man in the series. Talking about clones, am still wondering if Shep's clone survived the fall lol. Though unlikely, I sure wouldnt mind a clone of the illusive man though, especially if it's still voiced by Martin Sheen.
Agreed on the Asari, some do seem a little elitist. If you played the citadel DLC, those 2 Asari in the casino fits the bill, but well cant generalise an entire population based on those 2 I guess lol. Well they do have something in common with the Hannar... They both worship the Protheans lol! Ok back to the benefactor. What you mentioned about the Asari does fit the bill of the benefactor's MO as well.
Yeah, unless this is the Benefactor or Bioware just trying to screw with our heads, they should break out the old thesaurus and change that note in one of the patches.
Honestly, I had forgotten those 2 asari airheads. I was focusing on Shep's running issues with the Asari Councilor, the Matriarchs' decision to go fiddle while the Galaxy burned, and the fact that they wanted to put a hit on Liara (and I'm not counting Aethyta with the other Matriarchs because she's too cool), not to mention the huge stash of Prothean tech and warnings they didn't share, or heed.
Oooh! SAM joke! What is the difference between an Asari Matriarch and a Hanar?
Spoiler
The Hanar has more backbone!:eahigh_file:
@fudgietroll wrote:
@VladVonCastein wrote:There is this really confusing note that could be found in the kett temple addressing the benefactor or a benefactor which suggest that this "benefactor" is doing well in EOS. Let me look for it and I will post it here again below... Could be The Benefactor of the Andromeda Initiative but some speculate its another kett that is a benefactor to the person who wrote the note. confusing as hell and in my opinion if it's not The Benefactor being addressed, then Bioware writers really did a poor job. It's like calling someone sneaky Mr Illusive when there's already an illusive man in the series. Talking about clones, am still wondering if Shep's clone survived the fall lol. Though unlikely, I sure wouldnt mind a clone of the illusive man though, especially if it's still voiced by Martin Sheen.
Agreed on the Asari, some do seem a little elitist. If you played the citadel DLC, those 2 Asari in the casino fits the bill, but well cant generalise an entire population based on those 2 I guess lol. Well they do have something in common with the Hannar... They both worship the Protheans lol! Ok back to the benefactor. What you mentioned about the Asari does fit the bill of the benefactor's MO as well.
Yeah, unless this is the Benefactor or Bioware just trying to screw with our heads, they should break out the old thesaurus and change that note in one of the patches.
Honestly, I had forgotten those 2 asari airheads. I was focusing on Shep's running issues with the Asari Councilor, the Matriarchs' decision to go fiddle while the Galaxy burned, and the fact that they wanted to put a hit on Liara (and I'm not counting Aethyta with the other Matriarchs because she's too cool), not to mention the huge stash of Prothean tech and warnings they didn't share, or heed.
Oooh! SAM joke! What is the difference between an Asari Matriarch and a Hanar?
SpoilerThe Hanar has more backbone!:eahigh_file:Yup, Aethyta's the epitome of great writing and voice acting(love Claudia Black) She's got less than 5 mins worth of lines in ME2+ME3 and she beats every single MEA NPC(and even has more personality than some of the tempest crew!), that's why when people say the crew needs a few more games for fans to grow to love them, well, all it took for Aethyta was 5 mins of airtime.
As for Councilor Tevos... Well... I forgave her... cause she's hot... lol.... that voice... man...
@VladVonCastein wrote:Yup, Aethyta's the epitome of great writing and voice acting(love Claudia Black) She's got less than 5 mins worth of lines in ME2+ME3 and she beats every single MEA NPC(and even has more personality than some of the tempest crew!), that's why when people say the crew needs a few more games for fans to grow to love them, well, all it took for Aethyta was 5 mins of airtime.
As for Councilor Tevos... Well... I forgave her... cause she's hot... lol.... that voice... man...
Makes me think of EDI having Joker * the hotness factor of the Citadel leadership😃
Here's a couple of outside contenders for Benefactor: one of the Ashland heiresses or, DUN DUN DUN, Avina!😃
@fudgietroll wrote:Makes me think of EDI having Joker * the hotness factor of the Citadel leadership😃
Here's a couple of outside contenders for Benefactor: one of the Ashland heiresses or, DUN DUN DUN, Avina!😃LOL
LOL EDI was trying to figure out whats hot and whats not... Asaris are in and Salarians are out according to joker lol. As for Aish Ashland... Check out her conversation with Shep lol... Dont think she can even spell "Benefactor" correctly!
Aishwarya Ashland
Standing next to a turian, near the roulette tables.
- On approach:
Croupier: Round and round and round she goes.Aish: What's that supposed to mean? Is that like code for how wasted I am?Croupier: Uh... no, ma'am. We just call the wheel "she."- First conversation:
Aish: I love roulette. Every minute is more exciting than the next.Shepard: Should I point out the flaw in that statement?Aish: Oh, are you like one of those detail people? Come on. Even diamonds have flaws, but that doesn't make them less valuable.Shepard: Miss, where exactly were you educated?Aish: Oh, online. You can take these courses, and it teaches you responsibility, because you do the grading.- Second conversation:
Aish: You, tough-girl/tough-guy. Perfect. I need an opinion on something from a B-lister or below.Aish: Houses with retractable roofs. Still in? Or too common?Shepard: Your house has a retractable roof?Aish: Only the one on the Citadel. I gotta take care of it since the one on Earth got all Reaperified.Shepard: Instead of remodeling, maybe you could invite a few refugees to come stay.Aish: Oh, I'm totally on that. But finding the right one is hard, you know? So many of them don't have agents.- Third conversation:
Aish: Can't stay away, can you?Shepard: What can I say? I'm a masochist.Aish: Oh, no kidding! I'm a Scorpio. We'll get along great.I had thought that there were more Ashland girls than just her. Anyway, I was just having a chuckle over the idea of airheads like her or Avina secretly having the intelligence and skill to pull off being the Benefactor. Kind of like an extreme version of Reyes.
Also, some people on these boards spell Benefactor like Aish, so don't be objectiveist🤭👿
@fudgietroll wrote:I had thought that there were more Ashland girls than just her. Anyway, I was just having a chuckle over the idea of airheads like her or Avina secretly having the intelligence and skill to pull off being the Benefactor. Kind of like an extreme version of Reyes.
Also, some people on these boards spell Benefactor like Aish, so don't be objectiveist🤭👿
LOL.... During my first playthrough I didnt realise her father was upstairs by the bar, when I finally connected the dots it was just great lol... I feel his pain lol....
Still with that undying hope the Benefactor is a third unknown party of one or many individuals. Just find it so annoyingly coincidental that we happen to know all the possible outcomes from a galaxy-full of inhabitants; secrecy and huge amounts of resources might not be so rare in a Galaxy, I'd wager, specially considering secrecy.
@PandaTar wrote:Still with that undying hope the Benefactor is a third unknown party of one or many individuals. Just find it so annoyingly coincidental that we happen to know all the possible outcomes from a galaxy-full of inhabitants; secrecy and huge amounts of resources might not be so rare in a Galaxy, I'd wager, specially considering secrecy.
You mean like This?👿
@PandaTar wrote:Still with that undying hope the Benefactor is a third unknown party of one or many individuals. Just find it so annoyingly coincidental that we happen to know all the possible outcomes from a galaxy-full of inhabitants; secrecy and huge amounts of resources might not be so rare in a Galaxy, I'd wager, specially considering secrecy.
That doesn't make sense. If anyone and their dog with a conspiracy can procure the resources that are arguably greater than the Batarian Hegemony, they should be able to fight back against the Reapers just with manufacturing ships.
Secrecy, as I said. It doesn't make sense we knowing the whole potentiality of people in a whole galaxy. I prefer my way, thank you.
@arthurh3535 wrote:
@PandaTar wrote:Still with that undying hope the Benefactor is a third unknown party of one or many individuals. Just find it so annoyingly coincidental that we happen to know all the possible outcomes from a galaxy-full of inhabitants; secrecy and huge amounts of resources might not be so rare in a Galaxy, I'd wager, specially considering secrecy.
That doesn't make sense. If anyone and their dog with a conspiracy can procure the resources that are arguably greater than the Batarian Hegemony, they should be able to fight back against the Reapers just with manufacturing ships.
Supposedly the Batarian Hegemony is in an economic black hole and losing ground fast, thus the terror tactics, but I could see them scraping together the resources to make some kind of ark, just to try and keep up with/stick it to their arch-rival, the humans.
@PandaTar wrote:Secrecy, as I said. It doesn't make sense we knowing the whole potentiality of people in a whole galaxy. I prefer my way, thank you.
That's getting to the point of saying it can be anyone and magic makes it possible.
Sorry.
SPACE MAGIC
@arthurh3535 wrote:
@PandaTar wrote:Secrecy, as I said. It doesn't make sense we knowing the whole potentiality of people in a whole galaxy. I prefer my way, thank you.
That's getting to the point of saying it can be anyone and magic makes it possible.
Sorry.
SPACE MAGIC
Actually, I'm pretty sure he's saying that it could be anyone and money, power, and excessive paranoia make it possible.
Anyway, on the topic of evil corporations as the Benefactor, has anyone considered the collective entity of Donavan Hock and his cronies in the "business of war" for the job?
