I wish the endings for Mass effect 3 are not canonizes and the developers create a new ending or borrow the ending mod. Maybe the Mass Effect 4 would take place in the distance future (centuries) about solving the dark matter aging the galaxy or repairing mass effect relay to the Andromeda galaxy and make vague references to the battle with the reapers. Also, maybe in the ME 4; you are descend of Shepard or descend cousin, unnamed or unknown sidling of Shepard.

It's true, the ending is only 'canon' to you and you alone.Why? Because everyone picked their own ending. Rather you liked any of the options or not, they were different from one another and not everyone picked the same one. What is 'canon' to you may not be the same for me.I actually think they did a pretty good job with the way they got around this for Andromeda. You left before that choice was made so now everyone has their own reality that they left behind but it doesn't effect the current game. It was a good way of getting around the fact that everyone didn't get the same ending for the trilogy.As for Mass Effect 4, I don't see it as a possibility for the exact reason that the ME3 ending wasn't a part of Andromeda. Too many varied options, there is no way to pick up from that point to where it makes sense for everyone no matter what they decided. Rather you like the story of Andromeda or not, it was the most logical way to continue the series. Shepard and the trilogy are over, it was a great run but every great thing has to eventually end. As much as I loved the Mass Effect Trilogy, it's time to move on.

None of the endings are canon... Bioware completely dodged that bullet by jumping back in time and sending us to a new galaxy... we have no confirmation or way to confirm any of the endings as being canon.If we stayed in the Milky Way, then there would be some explaining to do - but they got away with leaving it open ended because the series now branches off in a completely different way.

@lagruej wrote:None of the endings are canon... Bioware completely dodged that bullet by jumping back in time and sending us to a new galaxy... we have no confirmation or way to confirm any of the endings as being canon.If we stayed in the Milky Way, then there would be some explaining to do - but they got away with leaving it open ended because the series now branches off in a completely different way.Agreed, throughout the game you hear different reasons why ryder etc etc decided to go to andromeda, running away from ones past, starting a fresh clean slate.... Guess what... that's what Bioware is doing all along, running away from the ME3 ending, trying to start a clean slate but tripped over the story and lore a bunch of times...

@DarthLlama wrote:It's true, the ending is only 'canon' to you and you alone.Why? Because everyone picked their own ending. Rather you liked any of the options or not, they were different from one another and not everyone picked the same one. What is 'canon' to you may not be the same for me.I actually think they did a pretty good job with the way they got around this for Andromeda. You left before that choice was made so now everyone has their own reality that they left behind but it doesn't effect the current game. It was a good way of getting around the fact that everyone didn't get the same ending for the trilogy.As for Mass Effect 4, I don't see it as a possibility for the exact reason that the ME3 ending wasn't a part of Andromeda. Too many varied options, there is no way to pick up from that point to where it makes sense for everyone no matter what they decided. Rather you like the story of Andromeda or not, it was the most logical way to continue the series. Shepard and the trilogy are over, it was a great run but every great thing has to eventually end. As much as I loved the Mass Effect Trilogy, it's time to move on.Yup agreed, some 10-15 years ago when they planned the ME storyboard, it was meant for a trilogy, when it became a wild success in ME2, they should have re-visited the storyboard and made some changes to the ME3 ending, so that it doesnt close off the entire series with 3 very divergent endings that can then branch off to best case, normal or worst case outcome within the bracket. Then a 4th option that the reapers won and the cycle continues. They simply cant come back from this. If they decide an ending some fans will be pissed if their ending is not selected. All they can do now is make life in a new galaxy and ignore the past, so they have little news that they cant communicate with the milky way via QEC etc... (Which doesnt make sense unless the worst case situations are assumed. )

There is "no ending" in Mass Effect 3. Till the Extendet Cut there are a few possible endings. And till they put in this "breathing chest" of Shepard at one of the endings, it could be everything. They can pick whatever ending they want: Destroying the MilkyWay, make a Human-Mechanic MilkyWay. Or:Shepard saved the MilkyWay, was rescued, EVI was somehow redone (by a backup), the Portals are fixed. Everywhere is peace and Happiness. You see a shower, somebody is under the shower (remember Dallas 😃 ), than you see XXX [love-interest] enter the bathroom: "Sweetheart, you have an important call. It's Admiral Hackett .... the Galaxy is in trouble again. Hurry up!"And your Shepard leaving the shower. Sighting. :-)

I wish the endings for ME3 aren't canonizes

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mcsupersport
Hero+
9 years ago
1) They dug their hole, they live with it.
2) Why have a long time between when they can just add a few years and say Andromeda flourished and they can have basically everything in new galaxy.
Why would they go back and rewrite the ME3 endings NOW, after they have basically re-established most races and have a blank slate of a galaxy to play with?? Honestly, if they were at anytime going to rewrite ME3 and come up with a decent set of endings.....The EXTENDED CUT was the time to do it, but they said it was their vision and we live with it. Milky Way Galaxy is dead and buried for Mass Effect, doubt they will open the can of worms to change that, much easier to continue Andromeda.
Anonymous
9 years ago
None of the endings are canon... Bioware completely dodged that bullet by jumping back in time and sending us to a new galaxy... we have no confirmation or way to confirm any of the endings as being canon.

If we stayed in the Milky Way, then there would be some explaining to do - but they got away with leaving it open ended because the series now branches off in a completely different way.
VladVonCastein
9 years ago
@lagruej wrote:
None of the endings are canon... Bioware completely dodged that bullet by jumping back in time and sending us to a new galaxy... we have no confirmation or way to confirm any of the endings as being canon.

If we stayed in the Milky Way, then there would be some explaining to do - but they got away with leaving it open ended because the series now branches off in a completely different way.
Agreed, throughout the game you hear different reasons why ryder etc etc decided to go to andromeda, running away from ones past, starting a fresh clean slate.... Guess what... that's what Bioware is doing all along, running away from the ME3 ending, trying to start a clean slate but tripped over the story and lore a bunch of times...
DarthLlama
9 years ago
It's true, the ending is only 'canon' to you and you alone.
Why? Because everyone picked their own ending. Rather you liked any of the options or not, they were different from one another and not everyone picked the same one. What is 'canon' to you may not be the same for me.
I actually think they did a pretty good job with the way they got around this for Andromeda. You left before that choice was made so now everyone has their own reality that they left behind but it doesn't effect the current game. It was a good way of getting around the fact that everyone didn't get the same ending for the trilogy.
As for Mass Effect 4, I don't see it as a possibility for the exact reason that the ME3 ending wasn't a part of Andromeda. Too many varied options, there is no way to pick up from that point to where it makes sense for everyone no matter what they decided.
Rather you like the story of Andromeda or not, it was the most logical way to continue the series. Shepard and the trilogy are over, it was a great run but every great thing has to eventually end. As much as I loved the Mass Effect Trilogy, it's time to move on.
VladVonCastein
9 years ago
@DarthLlama wrote:
It's true, the ending is only 'canon' to you and you alone.
Why? Because everyone picked their own ending. Rather you liked any of the options or not, they were different from one another and not everyone picked the same one. What is 'canon' to you may not be the same for me.
I actually think they did a pretty good job with the way they got around this for Andromeda. You left before that choice was made so now everyone has their own reality that they left behind but it doesn't effect the current game. It was a good way of getting around the fact that everyone didn't get the same ending for the trilogy.
As for Mass Effect 4, I don't see it as a possibility for the exact reason that the ME3 ending wasn't a part of Andromeda. Too many varied options, there is no way to pick up from that point to where it makes sense for everyone no matter what they decided.
Rather you like the story of Andromeda or not, it was the most logical way to continue the series. Shepard and the trilogy are over, it was a great run but every great thing has to eventually end. As much as I loved the Mass Effect Trilogy, it's time to move on.
Yup agreed, some 10-15 years ago when they planned the ME storyboard, it was meant for a trilogy, when it became a wild success in ME2, they should have re-visited the storyboard and made some changes to the ME3 ending, so that it doesnt close off the entire series with 3 very divergent endings that can then branch off to best case, normal or worst case outcome within the bracket. Then a 4th option that the reapers won and the cycle continues. They simply cant come back from this. If they decide an ending some fans will be pissed if their ending is not selected. All they can do now is make life in a new galaxy and ignore the past, so they have little news that they cant communicate with the milky way via QEC etc... (Which doesnt make sense unless the worst case situations are assumed. )
Rappeldrache
9 years ago
There is "no ending" in Mass Effect 3. Till the Extendet Cut there are a few possible endings. And till they put in this "breathing chest" of Shepard at one of the endings, it could be everything. They can pick whatever ending they want: Destroying the MilkyWay, make a Human-Mechanic MilkyWay. Or:
Shepard saved the MilkyWay, was rescued, EVI was somehow redone (by a backup), the Portals are fixed. Everywhere is peace and Happiness. You see a shower, somebody is under the shower (remember Dallas 😃 ), than you see XXX [love-interest] enter the bathroom: "Sweetheart, you have an important call. It's Admiral Hackett .... the Galaxy is in trouble again. Hurry up!"
And your Shepard leaving the shower. Sighting. :-)
Anonymous
9 years ago
Never got this "canon" thing.
The story doesn't have to be about Shepherd.. but about the events that occurred. For me, the names of characters aren't instrumental in the flow of the game or any follow ons.
Just the idea of what the game is.. that's all that matters.
For example Civ 1-6.. it's all the same game.. just slightly different ways of playing it, same with FF series or Fifa.. you're just playing football all the time..
Mass Effect is just a series of intertwined stories. And it's the interaction with those stories that makes the game fun. (for me imho etc etc) Which is why I like even the most basic interactions the Angry Woman.. the Confused anagarons.. and so on. Even the most minor mission can have huge entertainment factoring into it.. You might perhaps in ME:5 or 6 if ever they come into being.. meet the great grand daughter of Sloan Kelly.. or of the Charlton.. Or Dunn.. Or someone from the earlier series..
It's like the whole Star Trek thing.. oh they switched timelines.. oh how terrible that is, I hate star trek now etc etc.. doesn't bother me one bit.. I like the old Star Trek, I like the new.. that someone switched timelines only makes it more interesting, not less so. All this hang up hate about what is or isn't Canon.. it's completely pointless.
I'm glad they made new characters from a fresh bloodline.. because the story of andromeda does stem from the story of the original series. You just can't import your character to it.. because they've gone in a different direction.
VladVonCastein
9 years ago
@Rappeldrache wrote:
There is "no ending" in Mass Effect 3. Till the Extendet Cut there are a few possible endings. And till they put in this "breathing chest" of Shepard at one of the endings, it could be everything. They can pick whatever ending they want: Destroying the MilkyWay, make a Human-Mechanic MilkyWay. Or:
Shepard saved the MilkyWay, was rescued, EVI was somehow redone (by a backup), the Portals are fixed. Everywhere is peace and Happiness. You see a shower, somebody is under the shower (remember Dallas 😃 ), than you see XXX [love-interest] enter the bathroom: "Sweetheart, you have an important call. It's Admiral Hackett .... the Galaxy is in trouble again. Hurry up!"
And your Shepard leaving the shower. Sighting. :-)
Whilst I do think your version is better and given a choice I would buy a game with this ending, the actual fact is that yours is one of 10 possible ending. You chose destroy. ending and probably have enough war assets so shepard survived(and hoped that there is a shower scene lol) What if another fan chose synthesis and shepard's dead and milkyway folks are now these quasi organic/synth hybrid? Or another who chose control and Shepard's now a super reaper galactic policeman?
Just saying if I am siting on the bioware seat and I am the one in charge of the next ME game, it would take a lot of guts and political will to pull off a ME4, telling all fans to ignore the previous 9 endings and focus on one that Bioware now thinks is the actual ending. They cant even do a Q&A thing at the start to find out which ending you chose so that they can customise the game accordingly, as the endings are too divergent. It's like they will have to do at least 3 totally new games rather than 1. So the easy way out was to create andromeda...
Rappeldrache
9 years ago
See Dragon Age: They made Dragon Age: Inqusisition with ONE possible ending. They just have choosen one ending with a little bit "cosmetic chances depeding on your decisions in the further two parts". Like: Is Alistair king or Warden. 😉
Why should they not do the same with Mass Effect?
VladVonCastein
9 years ago
@Rappeldrache wrote:
See Dragon Age: They made Dragon Age: Inqusisition with ONE possible ending. They just have choosen one ending with a little bit "cosmetic chances depeding on your decisions in the further two parts". Like: Is Alistair king or Warden. 😉
Why should they not do the same with Mass Effect?
Well I played all 3 dragon age games, I vaguely remembered the first one was good, the second one wasnt, DAI was ok. I cant even remember the story as it didnt attract me as much as ME. I think they changed the protagonist, the 3rd one as well. I can hardly remember the characters( with the exception of morigan cause shes so hot with claudia black's voice... man... Apologies I digress...) As much as some fans loved dragon age, for me, in my personal scale of games, it's not there at the top with the ME trilogy. If you wish to create a game like Dragon age, different protagonist, a little disjointed, am sure some would like that. I wont. To me that would have devastated the ME legacy more than MEA would lol. For me when people mention gotham, I think of batman, when people mentioned ME I think of Shepard, Robin will never replace batman, even if he calls himself nightwing and gets a darker costume. Calling a show gotham and I get only robin running around saying "Holy Moly" being a nice boy just doesnt really do it for me... That's just my opinion, feel free to disagree but that's how I feel.