The answer to your first qestion is here.
For your second qestion, the new Mass Effect game is only announced, there is practically no info available about this game, that includes if it will use character import or not.
@mcsupersport wrote:
My point about Synthesis ending isn't whether it is right or wrong, but more that it creates a situation that changes the fundamental fabric of the Universe. Making every living thing and all AI and possibly all machines into Hybrid Organic Synthetic lifeforms isn't really compatible with a Destroy ending in 500 years. You can more easily see a Destroy and Control being similar in say 1000 years, if you say Control Shepard "left" ,"deteriorated", or otherwise no longer around and Destroy, but to have the Synthesis ending accounted for is stretching it a bit.
It still only needs a good story to change that.
mcsupersport wrote:
Now as far as "space Magic" goes, yeah to a point, but Bioware took great pains to create an underlying system of "Science and reason" ,aka lore, for all the things that don't actually work quite like we know them to work now. You had to suspend belief and accept the precepts of the Bioware ME Universe to enjoy the game, but they did create this...then they blew it up for Green Synthesis and to a point Red Destroy. The basic reason for the wave working to Synthesis was "advanced technology beyond human understanding...." and Destroy for killing the Geth, was because we said so. "Advanced Technology beyond Human Understanding...." as a reason is saying a space mage did it, and breaks the suspension of belief for many people, maybe it doesn't bother you, but to me it does.
At no point does Bioware ever create a system of science in the ME Universe that can explain how an energy wave can and meld organic and machines into a living stable item, create or alter the mass of the organism to create the missing side either organic or synthetic, do it across all the Universe, take but seconds to do it, and somehow use Shepard DNA to make it work, even on beings that don't in anyway share Human DNA
They never explained how a human being could fall from space to the ground of a Planet (with an atmosphere.) but it was still enough left of her/him to get resurrect.
They never explained how a Thresher maw could be even remotely possible.
Omni tools, about any Tech ability... I could go on for quite some time. 😉
As said, the space magic was fine, as long as people liked it. It was only brought up after many didn't liked the ending, as an argument against the ending, and only there.
It indeed never bothered me. There is Space magic in about any Sci-fi universe I ever encountered, it is just how things are.
mcsupersport wrote:
This was pure because we said so, it s a cool ending, hand wave, just go with it. Destroy killing the Geth was simply done to make it a harder decision and to heck with the lore of the last two games and all the things you learned about said Geth...THEY WERE SOFTWARE....
Of course it was, and it was a good decision imho.
Having "Destroy" as the all around happy ending, after this storyline, would have been extremely boring and disappointing.
For the Get, you learned about them if you decide to learn about them, it is not a giving.
For many the Get are already gone in the final battle. They still slaughtered the Quarians, the still helped Saren, they still supported the Reapers after Saren.
There are more than enough good reasons not to trust them, and also to sacrifice them.
For me that make the ending good, that you indeed have to sacrifice something.
@mcsupersport wrote:
Now if you chose Synthesis, Control, or Destroy, you SHOULD NOT have your ending story overwritten simply because Bioware doesn't want to put in the work dealing with the Andromeda issue like they should have. The endings Bioware chose to write, IF they stick to them, preclude continuing the story in any time close to the end of ME3 in the Milky Way Galaxy(excluding making multiple versions of the game and assets to cover the different endings). In 50k years it could work, in 100k years it could work, but anything less to me doesn't if for no other reason than 600 years is half an Asari/Krogan lifetime, and thus no real change would occur in their Biology due to evolution. The Salarians would change the most in that time, being that it is between 12-30 generations for them and similar to that for humans, but even then look back into our history, and see that we haven't changed physically all that much since the 1400s which would be a similar time scale what I am talking about, heck even going back 2000 years and humans haven't changed a massive amount physically. .
Sorry MC, but you are manoeuvring yourself into a corner here
What you're basically saying is that Bioware should not change the players decision, but if they do, no matter how they do it, it will not work for you.
You set yourself up for disappointment, ME5 will never have a chance for you this way.
Andromeda was killed by the shitstorm, was it unfair? Yes, in my opinion it was, but it is how it is.
I can completely understand that they didn't wanted to risk more money and resources the way it was received.
mcsupersport wrote:
So maybe you wouldn't mind the hand wave to get a new Milky Way ME, but to me it would be the worst choice. Yeah, I am probably in the minority in this thought, but that is how I feel. What will Bioware do?? No clue, but Shepard is money in the bank, so if you ask me to guess, well........hand waving incoming....
This ship has already sailed, the Trailer clearly shows that we are going back to the Milky Way in some form.
I think it is the best decision they could have made after Andromeda.
And that they go back to the Milky Way, (The Andromeda shot at the beginning of the trailer was intentional as Michael Gamble said.) doesn't mean Andromeda is forgotten.
I hope they connect both galaxies and both storylines.
That way the can give us a new story and anwser open questions about Andromeda.
@holger1405 wrote:
It still only needs a good story to change that.
mcsupersport writes:
Depends on the definition of a good story, and I can debate you on that working.
Holger1405 wrote:
They never explained how a human being could fall from space to the ground of a Planet (with an atmosphere.) but it was still enough left of her/him to get resurrect.
They never explained how a Thresher maw could be even remotely possible.
Omni tools, about any Tech ability... I could go on for quite some time. 😉
As said, the space magic was fine, as long as people liked it. It was only brought up after many didn't liked the ending, as an argument against the ending, and only there.
It indeed never bothered me. There is Space magic in about any Sci-fi universe I ever encountered, it is just how things are.
mcsupersport writes:
Humans falling...agree, and I didn't like it either, along but you could argue his armor.....Thresher Maw wasn't explained, BUT it has been in all three main trilogy games, so it has a history, and we gamers have experience with them.Omni Tools ARE explained, and there are lore info on them in the games explaining how they work and what you can do with them.Again, they mostly created the systems they used and then they broke them for the endings, you are ok with this, that if fine, but we both agree they broke their own rules.
Holger1405 wrote:
Of course it was, and it was a good decision imho.
Having "Destroy" as the all around happy ending, after this storyline, would have been extremely boring and disappointing.For the Get, you learned about them if you decide to learn about them, it is not a giving.
For many the Get are already gone in the final battle. They still slaughtered the Quarians, the still helped Saren, they still supported the Reapers after Saren.There are more than enough good reasons not to trust them, and also to sacrifice them.
For me that make the ending good, that you indeed have to sacrifice something.
mcsupersport writes:Not liking them is still not a reason to break the rules of story you created. Geth only slaughtered the Quarians if the Quarians attacked them AGAIN, some supported the Reapers and Saren, and if they are already gone, then it doesn't matter if they are destroyed again....BUT Bioware should have created other losses instead of breaking their story rules. To go along with Edi dying, maybe add longer repair times on the Mass effect gates, loss of more higher end computers, but something other than wiping software off servers but ONLY SOME software. Geth were basic enough programs that they could live in Quarians life Suits, yet the red wave could pick them out of those same suits to kill them and leave the rest of the suit operating systems??@holger1405 wrote:
Sorry MC, but you are manoeuvring yourself into a corner here
What you're basically saying is that Bioware should not change the players decision, but if they do, no matter how they do it, it will not work for you.You set yourself up for disappointment, ME5 will never have a chance for you this way.
Andromeda was killed by the shitstorm, was it unfair? Yes, in my opinion it was, but it is how it is.
I can completely understand that they didn't wanted to risk more money and resources the way it was received.
mcsupersport wrote;
Maybe, maybe not, but then I was extremely happy to see Andromeda because they showed they didn't want to overwrite the choices of people who played their game. ME5 may well disappoint me, games have before, and will again. It's not fatal, so I will get over it, and depending on the story, may or may not buy the game, again not fatal
@holger1405 wrote:
This ship has already sailed, the Trailer clearly shows that we are going back to the Milky Way in some form.
I think it is the best decision they could have made after Andromeda.
And that they go back to the Milky Way, (The Andromeda shot at the beginning of the trailer was intentional as Michael Gamble said.) doesn't mean Andromeda is forgotten.I hope they connect both galaxies and both storylines.
That way the can give us a new story and anwser open questions about Andromeda.
mcsupersport writes:
We will now get to see what they do, personally, I hope they shed the Milky Way like a snakes dead skin......but as I said, if I had to guess, I expect lots of Hand Waving and Shepard.....
