It has come to my and other players attention that MEA is severely lacking in m/m content as opposed to other orientations and we believe this to be due to intentional bias. This is a huge step backwards from ME3 and DA:I. Some have been trying to reach the devs for comment for weeks but thus far have been ignored. In light of this situation I have processed a refund request and will not be playing Andromeda. As a paying customer for years I have never been more disappointed and only hope now that someone at EA and Bioware take our concern and feedback seriously in the future.

not to sound like an * but I am sounding like an * I guess...but it's a fictional game...if you play this game solely to be able to bang some dude or some alien dude, you may want to recheck your priorities there, youhoo.

Simplest explanation for why? There's a double-standard. Girl-on-girl is hot. Guy-on-guy is not.

There are several m/m romances in the game. I don't see how it's a step back from ME3 and DAI since all these games have an equal number of m/m romances (as far as I'm aware). Spoiler (Highlight to read)Male Ryders can be romantically involved with Gil and Reyes.Male Ryders can be romantically involved with Gil and Reyes.

@Alexnssilents wrote:not to sound like an * but I am sounding like an * I guess...but it's a fictional game...if you play this game solely to be able to bang some dude or some alien dude, you may want to recheck your priorities there, youhoo. Guess I need to check mine then!! As much as I also enjoy the story I only play bioware rpgs for the most part now because they also include romances when most others do not. There is the witcher 3 but playing a guy never much appealed to me. In anycase, to the OP compared to Dorian's romance in DA:I, the m/m romances are seriously lacking. Im assuming Reyes was pretty much the same for both sis and bro Ryder, it was definitely a lacking romance. There is notes there that they intend to improve the male romance options for Scott over the next couple of months. Sadly nothing on improving the male romance options for Sara Ryder tho, which were also seriously lacking - yeah we got Jaal and his romance is good but its the only one (aliens aren't really my thing). Really though, you aren’t totally alone. The Fem Protag x Male romances are usually not much better in the ME games. One guy who dies, one guy who cheats leaving us with 2 viable options leading into and through ME3 (garrus and kaidan) our only plus there was not having to wait till ME3 to even get a romance really, and the fact we got one of each (one human, one alien) This time we get Jaal, Reyes and Liam. Jaal is decent, Reyes and Liam's romances really not. So yeah M/M has it the worse across the ME games for romances with F/M (F being the female protag) aren't all that far behind. I totally agree, they really should pick up their game when it comes to these romances ☹️ at least one good human option and one good alien option. Not 2 bad human options (m/m) and one good alien option, 2 bad human options (f/m), that andromeda has.

@shaolung666 wrote:I've found that this game is repleat with homosexual relationships and references. Far more than any past Bioware game. Way more than I encounter in real life. It's almost to the point where it feels forced. Just because you don't know someones gay irl doesn't mean they aren't around. Lots who still hide it out of fear. Besides there is only 2 in this game. Thats hardly plenty when there is far more HET romances for Scott and F/F romances for Sara than there is M/M romances. In ME 1 - 3 there was 2 m/m romances out of the entire trilogy and they were both only in ME3. Yet there was more f/f romances for Femshep the there was F/M romances for her. M/M is certainly not the issue with these games. Esp not in the more open era they are set in. (Edit) what there is, is too much catering to male players overall. Tons of Male Protag x Females romances and f/f romances for the guys who play the fem protags and want dont wanna romance a guy, so much so that the others get left out snd sub par romances.

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Fred_vdp
Hero+
9 years ago
There are several m/m romances in the game. I don't see how it's a step back from ME3 and DAI since all these games have an equal number of m/m romances (as far as I'm aware).

Spoiler
Male Ryders can be romantically involved with Gil and Reyes.
Alexnssilents
9 years ago
not to sound like an * but I am sounding like an * I guess...but it's a fictional game...if you play this game solely to be able to bang some dude or some alien dude, you may want to recheck your priorities there, youhoo.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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The problem isn't the number of m/m romance options, it's something much worse, the lack of m/m content. For starters there is no squadmate avaliable for m/m romance (unlike ME3 and DAI), then there is way less cutscenes in the m/m romace compared to the f/m romance (something like half the cutscenes), and with that a very limited number of dialogue lines. All of which makes MEA a big step back on m/m romance when compared with other games from BioWare. I'm not saying that I will stop playing the game, but it would be really good if they adressed those problems with a patch or DLC.
pyrion
8 years ago
Simplest explanation for why?

There's a double-standard. Girl-on-girl is hot. Guy-on-guy is not.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@Alexnssilents wrote:
not to sound like an * but I am sounding like an * I guess...but it's a fictional game...if you play this game solely to be able to bang some dude or some alien dude, you may want to recheck your priorities there, youhoo.

Guess I need to check mine then!!

As much as I also enjoy the story I only play bioware rpgs for the most part now because they also include romances when most others do not. There is the witcher 3 but playing a guy never much appealed to me.

In anycase, to the OP compared to Dorian's romance in DA:I, the m/m romances are seriously lacking. Im assuming Reyes was pretty much the same for both sis and bro Ryder, it was definitely a lacking romance. There is notes there that they intend to improve the male romance options for Scott over the next couple of months.

Sadly nothing on improving the male romance options for Sara Ryder tho, which were also seriously lacking - yeah we got Jaal and his romance is good but its the only one (aliens aren't really my thing). Really though, you aren’t totally alone. The Fem Protag x Male romances are usually not much better in the ME games. One guy who dies, one guy who cheats leaving us with 2 viable options leading into and through ME3 (garrus and kaidan) our only plus there was not having to wait till ME3 to even get a romance really, and the fact we got one of each (one human, one alien)

This time we get Jaal, Reyes and Liam. Jaal is decent, Reyes and Liam's romances really not.

So yeah M/M has it the worse across the ME games for romances with F/M (F being the female protag) aren't all that far behind.

I totally agree, they really should pick up their game when it comes to these romances ☹️ at least one good human option and one good alien option. Not 2 bad human options (m/m) and one good alien option, 2 bad human options (f/m), that andromeda has.
pyrion
8 years ago
Nykara360 wrote:
In anycase, to the OP compared to Dorian's romance in DA:I, the m/m romances are seriously lacking. Im assuming Reyes was pretty much the same for both sis and bro Ryder, it was definitely a lacking romance. There is notes there that they intend to improve the male romance options for Scott over the next couple of months.

There's more than one reason Reyes is called "the Charlatan," folks.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@FireStorm1040 wrote:

The problem isn't the number of m/m romance options, it's something much worse, the lack of m/m content. For starters there is no squadmate avaliable for m/m romance (unlike ME3 and DAI), then there is way less cutscenes in the m/m romace compared to the f/m romance (something like half the cutscenes), and with that a very limited number of dialogue lines. All of which makes MEA a big step back on m/m romance when compared with other games from BioWare. I'm not saying that I will stop playing the game, but it would be really good if they adressed those problems with a patch or DLC.

Theres no romance dialogue off the ship anyhow..

Not out in the field, for any of the romances. (At least not Jaal or Liam)

Only when specifically asked to meet somewhere - which they could have easy done with Suvi or Gil, or even Reyes. And on the ship. So you didn't miss out there.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@pyrion wrote:

Nykara360 wrote:
In anycase, to the OP compared to Dorian's romance in DA:I, the m/m romances are seriously lacking. Im assuming Reyes was pretty much the same for both sis and bro Ryder, it was definitely a lacking romance. There is notes there that they intend to improve the male romance options for Scott over the next couple of months.

There's more than one reason Reyes is called "the Charlatan," folks.

The romance could have at least had a sex scene. Same with Gil and Liam. Sex is mentioned but all off screen, so they arent ace, they just didnt get the scene. Only Cora, Peebee and Jaal did. So why only one human get a sex scene and 2 aliens? Why not give all the non-ace romances one? Makes no sense.
Kaddris
8 years ago
If the option's are there, sure. I was a little creeped out that Gil was an option, but just because his character seems one broken wrench away from killing everyone on board the ship.

I can see how disappointing it would be that there aren't equally acceptable options for all. Pretty sure Reyes would be a good choice, though without checking I think that might just be a fling. I accidentally gave him the love response and he seemed interested.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@Kaddris wrote:

If the option's are there, sure. I was a little creeped out that Gil was an option, but just because his character seems one broken wrench away from killing everyone on board the ship.

I can see how disappointing it would be that there aren't equally acceptable options for all. Pretty sure Reyes would be a good choice, though without checking I think that might just be a fling. I accidentally gave him the love response and he seemed interested.

With vid calls being an option snd shore leave there is really no reason for Reyes to just be a fling. There are plenty of long distance relationships in ME history between nocs etc so why not Ryder x Reyes as well. Going back to Kadara regularly to check on the outpost and making sure things are going well also a reason to keep going back.

I must admit though im not really fussed with the Reyes character, he is too much of a bad guy for my tastes. Having Slones turian friend beat up just to get to her left a bad taste in my mouth. Wanna get to her? Fine but don't hurt her friends just to do it. Reyes is not a nice guy. Sloane isn't either but at least she can't seduce the Ryders in the process.