Most Punchable Character?

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@TeahouseFox wrote:

I don't recall that Sloane had anything to do with that drug. That was an asari chemist who tried to convince you that the human doctor in the slums was behind it all. 

Sloane was taking protection money and kicking out those who couldn't pay,  true.  Reyes was no great prize either,  but he put on a good show. The Collective base I found left me with the opinion that he was also a bad choice,  and one that would shoot me in the back when it best suited him. 

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If you read some of the terminals and data pads, the Asari isn't even a doctor and isn't even trusted to change the dosage levels correctly. The Collective is paying the doctor to be a doctor. Sloan was definitely behind it, both sides say that she's the backer pushing it on the people. The only people that Sloan isn't involved in is the two stoner guys way up north.

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@arthurh3535 wrote:

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@TeahouseFox wrote:

I don't recall that Sloane had anything to do with that drug. That was an asari chemist who tried to convince you that the human doctor in the slums was behind it all. 

Sloane was taking protection money and kicking out those who couldn't pay,  true.  Reyes was no great prize either,  but he put on a good show. The Collective base I found left me with the opinion that he was also a bad choice,  and one that would shoot me in the back when it best suited him. 

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If you read some of the terminals and data pads, the Asari isn't even a doctor and isn't even trusted to change the dosage levels correctly. The Collective is paying the doctor to be a doctor. Sloan was definitely behind it, both sides say that she's the backer pushing it on the people. The only people that Sloan isn't involved in is the two stoner guys way up north.

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If you find some of the datapads from the early landings after the Kett are wiped out, Sloane was all about freedom and colonization at first, not drugs and "protection". Then for some reason, bad water seems insufficient, she switches from hardcore Liberarian to Mob Boss/General fighting a losing war at any cost from umpteen different action films. It's a big shift, and Reyes seems like the only one who benefits

NPCs Addison and Tann in equal measure, at least Addison eventually learns some humility but both far too 'political' I think we're meant to hate them though.

Squadmates: There were lots of times I wanted to punch PB. But Liam was near constant, the only good thing he did was organise a movie night and even that he outsourced all the work, well that and the football game. He was either whinging or * stuff up, doubt punching him would have solved anything.

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@arthurh3535 wrote:

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@vegetalito wrote:

I wanted to punch Peebee when she tricked my Ryder into to the volcano.

Also:

• Spender
• Morda
• "Andromeda's first murderer"
• Annoying woman who blamed Alec Ryder for everything
• Dr Aden

I'd say Kalinda too, but there's the option to go full Renegade on her, so it's fine as it is.

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Speaking of Andromeda's first murderer... I totally face palmed when he said "I didn't kill him, so let me go!"

You know, attempted murder is still a crime.

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Andromeda really needs a better option tha  exhile too. Who wants to inflict all those * on the rest of the galaxy?

Time for a prison I think.

I'll have to look for those data pads about the drugs in my next play through.

Like I said...they were neither of them prizes. The writers give you a crappy decision that says more about Ryder's honor/integrity than it does Sloane or Reyes', both of whom are evil. One just hides better.

Not that this hasn't been a theme before. There is never an option to toss Aria T'loak out of an airlock... She's got plot device status in the series. Playing the part of Aria in MEA is a pick A) or B) decision, and not C) bring them both down and install a proper governor/mayor/whatever in town.

I mean, exactly how many exiles could there be still? By the time you get to the decision on kadara, you've killed more exiles than could possibly have left the Nexus 😃

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@Nykara360 wrote:

Andromeda really needs a better option tha  exhile too. Who wants to inflict all those * on the rest of the galaxy?

Time for a prison I think.

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Not when you aren't sure you can feed your own people you wouldn't. Really, the choice should be being exiled or an airlock. The fact they mention prison for some people would be pretty laughable if you were looking down the barrel of running out of food and air.

Interesting social/moral question.

I'll set aside how they managed to let so many dysfunctional colonists into the program, and instead ask...

Is it right to release murderers on the galaxy you've just arrived in, basically returned to the wild to prey on the locals and be someone elses problem, or find a way to imprison them, or airlock the lot of them? I don't think any of these are good answers, really.

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@TeahouseFox wrote:

Interesting social/moral question.

I'll set aside how they managed to let so many dysfunctional colonists into the program, and instead ask...

Is it right to release murderers on the galaxy you've just arrived in, basically returned to the wild to prey on the locals and be someone elses problem, or find a way to imprison them, or airlock the lot of them? I don't think any of these are good answers, really.

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This assumes that the Initiative knew when they sent out the first exiles that there was any aliens to talk to (other than the Kett that are trying to murder you). The fact that they have a semi-viable option in Kadara and Eladaan is pretty much pure luck.

For me it would definitely have to be Director Tann... for someone trying to bring the prominent species of the Milky Way to a new galaxy, its pretty asinine that he's very forward about his racism to Krogans. I'm surprised he was in line to be a director...did they not put these candidates through psych evaluations? I'm pretty sure "not particular fond of an entire race" would be a disqualifying factor.

After him, SAM. He's basically Navi, only an AI supercomputer embedded into your very being instead of a floating fairy. Sure, SAM. Tell me again about how I can find minerals. Its not like we've done this dozens of times before. Just swap out "Hey! Listen!" with "Pathfinder..." and you pretty much have a robo-fairy your dad slipped into your ear while you begged for oxygen. 

@TeahouseFox

Side mission on Eleeden(Krogan colony world) if you scan some of the Scavengers..

It offers an explanation on the cause of so many morally corrupt people being part of the initiative. 

Also as a note, with the unknown benefactor with unknown motives and resources, it is also possible the Initiative personnel was subverted or sabotaged in some way to include many of these kind of people. 

Now on to the idea about is it right to release them, at the point in time when they boot them off, there is NO known livable planet for them to go to, and no way or means to house them in a prison of any sort.  So basically kicking them off was intended to be an almost certain death sentence and it was only by luck and hard work of the Exiles that they survived.  As far as air locking them goes, that would have caused them to fight harder and likely bred even more trouble long term as people wake up, and learn their relatives and loved ones were spaced.....