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EA_David
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5 years ago

Re: Final Saren/Sovereign fight crashing

Thanks for the posts.

To help with consistently replicating this, could we ask for any PC player who encountered this crash a few times, to post their pre-Saren-fight savefile, if you still have it?

Even if you're not on PC/don't have the save, posting your class/loadout and companions may help too. 

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  • SofaJockeyUK's avatar
    SofaJockeyUK
    Hero+
    5 years ago

    I was running a Sentinel on insanity, with Liara and Wrex (lots of biotics).

    A hard Xbox restart got me past the issue on the second attempt.

  • Playing Sentinel on PS5 with Liara and Tali, the game crashed for me twice during the final fight with Saren. The third time I turned squad power usage to defensive only and used no offensive biotics (still used barrier) and it didn't crash for me that time.

  • @sestertii same, but on PC, Sentinel with Liara and Tali, crashed 3 times in a row then I turned HDR off and beat it the 4th time, but maybe I just didn't use biotics anymore... not sure...
  • My party was: Liara and Wrex with my Shep as a Sentinel

    https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnQF1-lGvSzogt0supAlZkwz_GQGiw?e=j1MDfn 

    Assuming I set up the file correctly, the link above is my save file right before Saren fight.  As mentioned earlier in the thread, I crashed 4x in a row trying this fight until I stopped using offensive biotics, including setting my party members to only use defensive.

  • TLDR, I think WARP is the problem. At least it was the problem for me

    I also had this bug on insanity. I'm playing as a vanguard, and have Tali and Liara in my party. It happened over, and over, and over. Tried quite a few things.

    - Installed new graphic card drivers (5700 XT)

    - Lowered screen resolution from 4k to 1080p

    - Disabled Steam and Origin overlay. Notably, the origin overlay setting appears to only turn it off for the MELE  launcher. Mass Effect 1 LE itself is considered a different game, by Origin so the origin overlay is enabled when this "separate" game launches

    - Did not use the "tactical wheel" or whatever you call it in order to pause combat and issue commands to allies. I saw that this was a possible fix on reddit, but it did not work for me. Notably, I continued to use all my powers which were hotkeyed and did not require me to use the tactical wheel. This includes Warp

    - Tried using only biotic abilities which did not affect gravity (i.e., warp and barrier) after seeing other comments in this thread.

    None of the above worked. It was only when I did it without using any offensive abilities at all that I was able to complete the fight. The only difference between the run that worked, and the above one that did not was Warp. So I went back and tried it again using every biotic ability Liara and I had (throw, singularity, lift, barrier, and stasis). Everything except warp. And it worked!

    Maybe the bug is caused by warp still ticking down health while the cutscenes are playing?

    Google drive link to save. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D1wWVLhCbL5ZvHjVZvaG0-tI8zqjUz6K/view?usp=sharing

  • @PhantomSplit I followed your suggestion, I don't think I used stasis but I used everything else except Kaidan's neural shock (which like Warp is a DoT) and cleared the encounter after that.

    These saves should be all right before Saren fight and autosave is hopefully the one right as the fight starts but if not, the manual saves should be. Shepard (Adept), Kaidan and Liara.

    I avoided using Neural Shock in case it was the DoT component but it's available on the save in case it is the damage over time component causing the crash... or to test to see if it's Warp alone.

    Manual Saves:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LOw5UEShX8ytxTYxpSFZqVCkK_VEtga0/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S22NCk5wE7JmsoXVUl_K6248t23H5J8C/view?usp=sharing

    Autosave:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1axV7vzJqaN4Whs72VNKT4RWOb9cvkDmT/view?usp=sharing
  • Kateplay's avatar
    Kateplay
    5 years ago

    I gave this issue on Xbox Series X making it worse the insanity 2 and paramour 2 achievements did not pop and the way to insanity is to redo the boss fight so far I gave done it 25 times and had crashes each time tried everything I read like it’s a frame rate issue so put it in favour frame rate mode but no luck it just crashed at the end of mid fight cut scene

    not had the red screen just normally the game will freeze for a few seconds then crash  going to try this fix now

  • (raises hand)

    Same exact thing happened to me last night. Playing as an adept on Insanity. Game froze when I was fighting Saren's second incarnation (Sovereign cyborg).

  • Kateplay's avatar
    Kateplay
    5 years ago

    Can confirm this works if you have ceashes during the Saren fight turn off squad powers and just use guns and heal unity and shield boost 

    I finished it today got insanity 2 but the second time I did it I did not get 3 not sure why was hoping it would work so I did not have to play 3 on insanity 

  • Is there any actual solution other than nerfing yourself? I just finished my first playthrough on normal difficulty as an adept, stopped using powers due to the crash but now I want to move onto Insanity with this same character as I'm level 56 and was preparing for an Insanity run, am I to understand that no matter what I won't be able to use biotic powers against Saren?

  • holger1405's avatar
    holger1405
    Hero+
    5 years ago

    @ALTBOULI313 

    Using Powers after the mid fight cutscene should be fine. 

    If you are on a PC you can try full screen mode, capping the FPS to under 60 or playing in offline mode.

  • SeLeXeL's avatar
    SeLeXeL
    4 years ago

    Can confirm with almost certainty that the biotic ability, Warp, may have been responsible for my game crashing at the final battle with Saren.
    I play the PC version on insanity. My party consisted of, Tali and Wrex. Most of the weapons, armour and mods are the rank 10s.

    I used the rank 10 Spectre sniper with polonium rounds.
    Wrex used a rank 10 shotgun; Solokov I think.
    Tali used the rank 7 Spectre pistol with inferno rounds.
    I usually turn off squad powers anyway.

    I use tactical pause A LOT to position squad members and target enemies. So I had Tali overload Saren's shields and overheat as it seemed to do a little damage,
    Myself and Wrex used biotic abilities on the geth adds; mainly singularity, lift and push. This was mainly for crowd control purposes.

    If possible, I'd get Tali to hack a geth so it turns on its own squad. Not once did I touch warp !!

    Did this till I killed Saren and suffered no crash issues.

  • EA_Shepard's avatar
    EA_Shepard
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    2 years ago

    @YendorNostre Nice! Warp is legit! I use that all the time! This boss fight for some reason was one of the only ones I ever had issues with! You gotta have the right set up and use those abilities!

  • woudf8wqwqq7's avatar
    woudf8wqwqq7
    Rising Newcomer
    6 months ago

    Worked for me man! Thank you, I was finally able to finish the ME1 game...

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