Re: Mass effect 2 Romance glitch
@draconiam $45 I thought it be only $10 for achievements/trophies
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But in all seriousness I’ve just noticed something involving the bug I noticed that the codex background screen is completely black as well do I need things are visible Are the big codex name the funny looking little almost like a square little things like one green and Three red orange ones along with the categories primary and secondary along with the various things in these two items such as the council races citadel and galactic government now I still can’t think this something wrong with the loading screen mechanism go to the cut scene Now what I might do is triggered the romance before the suicide mission and see if it works properly in unlocking the achievement/trophy and I might also restart a new gameplay as well
- @draconiam I did try am romance Before the suicide mission and it seemed like it worked fine the dialogue went okay and after the dialogue was that it didn’t play black screen no I didn’t go to the romancing but it didn’t go to black after the dialogue now if my memory serves me well utan played the original game after the suicide mission and completing the romance dialogue it goes to the loading screen and automatically goes to the romance scene like I’m talking about the scene before going through the mass relay the omega 4 one now the one thing that still bugs me about this is the fact that this whole legendary edition is a re-mastery of the original game meaning they had to use the original code the original engine and the original everything except for the multi player and the achievement/trophies that came with multiplayer so romancing after the suicide mission should still wear the same as the original
- @dylan881 More likely they changed it without saying it, and like the Asari using Blue Suns armor in the Citadel DLC vault mission when in thr original release they used their armor and how they still haven't bothered to restore conversations Ashley Williams has like one with Liara and Glyph post Coup (and I suspect there are more) which are fully voiced but aren't properly being triggered correctly.
- @draconiam The thing is I did that they changed it because it still works normally like the dialogue still works normally in the romance after the suicide mission and before the only thing different is the black screen And surely they would put a notice up about changes in the romantic mechanics after suicide mission because The romance mechanic is tied into unlocking the achievement for romance I mean you might be right there might of changed it but I think we need to explore all avenues in regards to this because again my mind is thinking the using the original engine the using the original code would mean that romancing after suicide mission was the glitch and if that was the case they would’ve fixed it in the original one to prevent clot flag problems with the third game and for the record when I tried to do the romance before suicide mission basically and this was with Jack did the same background noise as with the glitch part after the suicide mission where the screen goes black might give me the background noise I’m kinda hoping more people might come up and get precise details of what they have in counted in terms of romance glitches The second game because again if there was a lot more information from other sources then we might get a clearer picture of what’s going on
- @draconiam okay I am 90% sure that this is still a bug but also 10% sure that they have change their romance parameters for the game primarily because I romanced a character before suicide mission and Work the cut scene worked the Achievement unlocked normally but I still think there might be a glitch in the romance plot flagging system because if they made a change in the romance parameters to remove the ability to romance someone after a suicide mission they would’ve added that in the information that was given before release like they would’ve said we did make some modifications to the romance mechanics where remove the ability to Romance after suicide mission was blocked but I’m gonna do a bit more research on that before I make a final conclusion on that theory
- @draconiam when did that patch come
@draconiamI don’t know if this may be part of the glitch or a separate glitch but I noticed the save files in my game have got completely different time playing hours like for example one of my saved files have got 104 hours and 23 minutes on it but then another one has only got six hours 38 minutes and then only /50 minutes /one minute it’s like all the saved have got different hours from the point when I save them now I know for a fact in the original version that didn’t happen
- @draconiam that something might look at but on the thing in regards to the romance glitch I looked on the Internet about any changes to the mechanics of romancing after the suicide mission and it looks like there hasn’t been any form of changes like they haven’t made it impossible to do it after the last level say could be A bit of the is synchronising between the The dialogue and the cut scene maybe out of whack because again I refer to the original version and romancing after a suicide mission it only takes a few moments and I might do a timing on how long it takes from dialogue to romancing to happen and then that might help me get a better understanding with this glitch Because I only thought of this and I am a was stupid not to think about this earlier but the timing between dialogue and cut scene might also be a factor this is off the suicide mission
- @draconiam I would say between the dialogue and then the scene would be about minimum a minute and a half to 2 minutes from dialogue to scene now doing the romance before suicide mission takes longer depending on how far The game is before suicide mission so on a hypothetical level say do the romance dialogue of the legions loyalty mission and then do the suicide mission I would say about roughly the same time line from the Lock in point dialogue to the actual scene now going on the information about the Le we can assume that they used the same coding for everything from combat to romance it would be the same code so by that logic it should Work the same way in terms of romancing after the suicide mission but it’s for me at least still a mystery on way It not where Working properly properly after suicide mission I mean if we had information that this glitch was on the PC version then maybe someone could dig into that like look at the plot flag mechanic in file and seeing if anything Not working properly because the same plot flagging system would be on for all platforms so if that glitch can be found on one platform it means it could be found on others
- @dylan881 I'll check with someone I suspect knows a few PC modders. @holger1405, sorry to bother you but what can you tell us about this one issue?
- @draconiam i’m sorry for being a pain in the butt but this is really stuck in my brain it’s like a mystery I want to solve and I’m just trying to as much clues as I can because in the back of my brain it’s saying there’s gotta be a connection with some of these glitches like with some of these trophies and achievements to unlocking properly it just feels that One glitch is connected to another but the glitches with the achievements maybe connected to glitches in game you know what I mean
I don't think that it was ever intended to have a romance or another romance after the suicide mission.
The romance must be locked in before you hit the Omega 4 relay and the romance scene is triggered if you hit it.
That is a hardcoded event that determines your romance for this playthrough.
You can only have one full romance, (Kelly or Samara are not full romances), in one playthrough.
@holger1405 wrote:I don't think that it was ever intended to have a romance or another romance after the suicide mission.
I think it was. After the credits in ME2 the New Game+ prompt says "Continue this game: Complete unfinished missions, develop relationships, play downloaded content, and explore the galaxy for anything you missed."
Seems clear to me that continuing/starting/changing relationships after the suicide mission was intended. As for the romance scene, I don't know whether those are meant to play afterwards or not. It always felt to me like the scene was supposed to be tied to the suicide mission.Yes, in a new game +.
If I got OP right they is playing inside the original playthrough.
@holger1405
The section I quoted is not for starting a new game, it's for continuing the existing game, hence "complete unfinished missions" etc.
The prompt has two sections, "Continue this game", and "Import Shepard: Start a New Game". The quote was from the former.Yes, but as said, the main relationship is already logged in if you go trough the Omega realy.
As said, I don't think it was ever intended to do another relationship inside the same playthrough.But I see now that in a later post OP mentions that he had no relationship before he got to the suicide mission.
It might be that OP has a purely technical problem that is not related to a relationship at all.
@dylan881
Could you elaborate on when this black screens happen?
You play on an Xbox it seems?@holger1405
One of the things the game suggests doing if you continue the current playthrough after the suicide mission is "develop relationships." That seems pretty clear.
Why are you so certain that this wasn't intended? Do you have evidence to the contrary?- @DocTheGamer What bothers me is that they were accepted in the original release and in fact gave players the Paramour II, yet now not. @holger1405
