Re: Why not just port the Mass Effect LE multiplayer as is without the remaster?

Rumors and reports out of EA says they are backtracking on forcing multiplayer into every game, and going back to encouraging studios to make games that players want and that the studios want to make.  I take this to mean, IF TRUE, that Bioware doesn't have to put MP into a game anymore, and can go back to making single player focused story strong RPG games.....if true. 

So not including MP maybe as simple as they no longer have to do so because EA says so.  They really don't enjoy making that type of game and want to expend their resources on the new Dragon Age, next Mass Effect and refining the stories in all future games.  Yeah, they COULD port it over, but they just don't want to and no longer have to so they aren't.

edited to fix a nasty run on sentence....typing train of thought isn't always a good idea......

@Ibn-Dragons 

True in some aspects, but consider that Bioware would have to expend time and effort port it over and support it in addition to the normal ME3 multiplayer unless they also coded in some kind of cross play to original ME3 MP.  But if Bioware devs don't really like MP, and were annoyed to have to create it in the first place simply because some EA exec decided it had to be there, then they may just not want to put in that effort again.  Do I have any inside info....no, but it kinda seems that Bioware is ok with the still running ME3 multiplayer, MEA multiplayer and have no desire to add another MP to the list.  Is any of my conjecture true???  No clue, but it was posted in an interview with about EA's change in focus with respect to their studios, and then Bioware decided to NOT put in the time to upgrade ME3 MP....

Personally, I think allowing all of EA's studios to decide what type of game and focus they want to develop is a great idea.  I honestly don't even know if it will bear out as truth and continued policy, but I can hope.

@Ibn-Dragons 

If you love playing ME3 MP, then likely You Already Have Access To It.....so why should Bioware spend time and effort to port over(as is un-upgraded) something that you already have access too??   I don't know if Bioware likes or dislikes MP....but it seems to me that they really aren't all that fond of it, and would rather spend time on stuff they do like and are interested in working on, such as the Next Dragon Age, or the Next Mass Effect.   If you don't have access to it now....trust me, there are plenty of better MP games out there.

If you are talking about also having upgraded graphics and such too, then likely they would also have to spend time on making sure it all works right....which for whatever reason they don't seem to want to spend.  Also unless they also changed OEME3, then there would be no cross edition play, thus all unlocks would likely be lost on the new MELE MP.  If they did upgrade OEME3 MP to allow both editions to play together and maybe keep unlocks and XP, then they would then have to spend double the time to port it over upgraded.  Personally, ME:Andromeda is better MP and gameplay, but I don't play it MP anymore either as I got tired of it after a month or two.  I will occasionally drop into a MEA MP game sometimes, but will never do the same on ME3.

I do understand your desire, I just think Bioware doesn't really want to fuss with MP and are basically happy to be able to wash their hands of it and not have to deal with it anymore.  From what I have heard they are now able to scrap the online component of the next DA, and that may make them have to redo a large part of the game mechanics and world, which could also be why they don't want to spend extra time on LEME because they are all hands on deck to fix the next DA, and exploring stuff for the next ME.

Speaking of Anthem.....I think it speaks volumes that they cut and ran from it so quickly after the so called change in EA direction about Multi-player in every game. 

The thing about the multiplayer is that most players turned up for the single player.

From survey data from BSN back in the day, it was something like:

Half played only single player

A third played both single and multiplayer (including multiplayer under protest to get galactic readiness)

A sixth played only multiplayer

I really like it, but the 'main meal' is the single player campaign.

Never say never though, I'd love to see the multiplayer get some attention.

@Ibn-Dragons 

LOL, maybe they ARE trying to get back into the good graces of their fans, by doing what they do best when it comes to games design, concentrating on single player story based games.  If @SofaJockeyUK  is in any way accurate, and I can believe it is close, then putting effort into MP only really caters to 1/6 of the player base of their game.  I personally would have rather they NEVER had MP and instead had put all the effort of it into polishing ME3 and maybe writing a decent ending....and yeah, the Original ending was worse by a long shot than the updated extended cut, but even the EC ending was pretty craptastic. 

If you get your wish, they I am happy for you, but I likely will not play MP.  If you don't get your wish, I am sorry for you, but I will not play MP.  To me, yeah, Bioware needs to get it's groove back and get back into the good graces of it's player base, and I hope they do what they do best, make great story based single player games and leave the MP to other studios.

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@mcsupersport wrote:

>> Bioware needs to get it's groove back <<

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To me, this is the key.

If this lands well and the remaster is a quality product, that puts us in a good place for quality games with Dragon Age 4 and Mass Effect 5.

@SofaJockeyUK Yes, I showed up for the delicious main meal too, and was pleasantly surprised when I got a sugar free vegan dessert on the side. But now they're telling me the "dessert" is too difficult to cook? 

They're a victim of their own success. If they don't like making "dessert", then they shouldn't be so good at it. I mean, even ME Andromeda's dessert is amazing; I had some earlier today.

[CM - Edited to remove profanity]

 @Ibn-Dragons 

To anwser the question in the other thread.

No, they should do what they do best, making great single player games.

I understand that you are disappointed that there is no remastered MP mode in the LE, but nagging about other features that are added will not change that.

There is a working MP in Mass Effect, in fact there are two.

Implanting a new MP mode into a game is a costly and time consuming project, I prefer that Bioware is using the resources necessary for that in a different way.

If the sales of MELE are huge and the install base makes looking at it again worthwhile, I'd be all for that.

(think of it as DLC for the remaster - Squadrons added more content when that was successful, despite not planning to)

But even if they did this, it's worth remembering that the resouces to make it would need to be pulled from Dragon Age 4 or Mass Effect 5 development.

@holger1405Wrote: "...what they do best, making great single player games.
I understand that you are disappointed that there is no remastered MP mode in the LE, but nagging about other features that are added will not change that."

You sure about that? A squeaky wheel gets the oil... usually.
And what you call "nagging", I call voicing an opinion.

You also said, "Implanting a new MP mode into a game is a costly and time consuming."

Yeah well, you know what else is equally costly and time consuming? Having to remaster old games in order to recoup loses from failed franchises after listening to money hungry CEOs at EA... all the while hoping you haven't completely alienated the fan/player base.

Rebuilding trust appears to be what this remaster is all about.

And prioritising single-player even more as getting that right is more important than the multiplayer component.

We'll see what the audience reaction is in three weeks.