So I completed the task, "What He Would Have Wanted" and am hoping someone will be able to explain to me what is going on with this task. The story. I feel like this should be a mission that has feels but I'm not sure what is going on/happened.
Cora sniffles at the end. And I keep making weird comments like, "Not sure I'm okay with this."
Can someone explain all this or give their take on the situation around it?
First off, thank you all for taking the time to answer this question.
After reading over what was said, I have to say that I like the intent behind the quest. I like the gist of the execution having it be done in recordings and how it surprises you with it. Very well done and thought out, but the dialogue... feel free to hate me... was awful for this quest,
It was so bad that I am still confused as to what they were really going for. First off, I thought it was a daughter and then yeah, he mentions being sick but I don't know.
It was like whoever wrote the dialogue didn't know what kind of feel to go for or what emotion for the speaker to have. And because of that, the last line didn't feel like a resolution.
Then Ryder's dialogue made it even more confusing. "I'm not sure I'm okay with this."
Why? What is it you're not sure about?
Now to be fair, it is possible that the people tasked to write dialogue for these quests are given a character limit and boy, can that mess you up when trying to write dialogue. Still, this could have been the most memorable mission in the game (for good reasons) and instead I feel the dialogue ruined it almost completely.
I played as Sara Ryder and the dying child was a girl not boy. Wonder if they change the child's sex to match your Ryder?
@chrissyce1123 wrote:
I played as Sara Ryder and the dying child was a girl not boy. Wonder if they change the child's sex to match your Ryder?
I played both male and fem ryders, it the same voice, the voice of a kid, high pitched, couldnt tell if its a boy or girl, I assumed it was a boy but doesnt matter. They could have done so much more with this and executed it poorly. This quest had enough time spent on it for creativity to flow and for it to be executed well. The Blue rose of illum story, if you add up all parts back to back probably lasted less than 3 mins, so much so that some random krogan named Charr that I saw in illum and an asari sales rep Ereba is haunting me for such a long time. Save to say the Erics wont be haunting me.
I really like the Witcher series, and it improves game to game with 3 on top. The original ME series wins hands down for "the feels" though. I cared about Shep and almost everyone on the crew by the end like they were my own. Witcher doesn't quite pull that off for me even over three games save for Ciri and Vesmir.
...So I have plenty of hope Bioware can go back to the well they tapped for me in ME2 and ME3.
Played WItcher 1 when I was much younger, remembered it being good but not in the league of balders gate and planescape torment. When witcher 2 was out was to busy with my career so never played it. Played witcher 3 when it was out, good game, enjoyed it but the characters didnt connect with me at all, perhaps because I couldnt remember much of witcher 1 and didnt play witcher 2. Recently had too much time on my hands, so picked up witcher 2 before MEA came out... Played half of it and to be honest couldnt complete it... I just got bored.
Am currently on my 4th playthrough for MEA, final battle, will finish this in an hours time after that. think I will quit as the pathfinder and once again be the first human spectre!
@PandaTar wrote:
I get the voice like being of a young woman, not really a child anymore. But that's just my perception.
This was mine too. In fact, I was wondering if this was another trans situation of some kind when they stated their name. This mission just irritates me because this had such huge potential, but even in this thread, we can't even seem to all agree on some of what should have been simpler details.
This means, that for most, it was likely just too confusing and they simply forgot about it and this should/could have been one of, if not the, most memorable quests in a game.
@PretzleMe wrote:
@PandaTar wrote:
I get the voice like being of a young woman, not really a child anymore. But that's just my perception.
This was mine too. In fact, I was wondering if this was another trans situation of some kind when they stated their name. This mission just irritates me because this had such huge potential, but even in this thread, we can't even seem to all agree on some of what should have been simpler details.
This means, that for most, it was likely just too confusing and they simply forgot about it and this should/could have been one of, if not the, most memorable quests in a game.
You know, that is NOT what he would have wanted.
@jpcerutti1 wrote:
@PretzleMe wrote:
@PandaTar wrote:
I get the voice like being of a young woman, not really a child anymore. But that's just my perception.
This was mine too. In fact, I was wondering if this was another trans situation of some kind when they stated their name. This mission just irritates me because this had such huge potential, but even in this thread, we can't even seem to all agree on some of what should have been simpler details.
This means, that for most, it was likely just too confusing and they simply forgot about it and this should/could have been one of, if not the, most memorable quests in a game.
You know, that is NOT what he would have wanted.
could be that either the He part refers to the father (who's likely dead at this point), or it's just a typo? as the recording sounds like a young woman's voice to me. there was a name in that recording right, i don't actually recall. i guess that's just how bla this particular quest actually was.
@jpcerutti1 wrote:
@PandaTar wrote:
I'm comparing a bit because as I'm starting playing Witcher 3, it becomes visible the many points they wanted to make in a similar fashion on MEA. In my understanding, when they do that, they place themselves somewhere we end up comparing, like comparing with the trilogy, back then? Now that the way the game was made has nothing to do with the way it was made back then as well. So, based on that logic, how to compare?
I remember they tweeted of facebooked something about studying the Witcher to have a glimpse on how to do side quests properly, that had impact on the whole. If they did that, then they make a point for comparison between both games. And so on. Making an Open World ... might have been a mistake. Probably because they haven't found the way it would work for ME. That's all.
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The thing about those underwater animals? Haven't felt a thing. ^_^
Witcher 3, so far, had me more careful and emotionally involved so far. 5h of gaming, more than 130 gaming on MEA. I really think they need getting a better writting.
I really like the Witcher series, and it improves game to game with 3 on top. The original ME series wins hands down for "the feels" though. I cared about Shep and almost everyone on the crew by the end like they were my own. Witcher doesn't quite pull that off for me even over three games save for Ciri and Vesmir.
...So I have plenty of hope Bioware can go back to the well they tapped for me in ME2 and ME3.
I know this thread is starting to drift from the OP's question, (I did complete "What He Would Have Wanted", and was hoping for a little bit more emotion), but I have to agree that the original ME trilogy created more emotional moments for me (laughter/sadness/vengeance) than any other game or games, with the exceptions of Dragon Age Origins and Witcher 3. I also cared about my Shepard and all of his crew. Those that live and those that die, I really felt something. Witcher 3 had some really emotional moments, but it's difficult to compare with MEA as they are just so different. I did feel for some of the characters like Vesmir, Ciri, Tess (and had a soft spot for the Bloody Baron), but with some exceptions, you spent most of the game traveling by yourself.
@Nykara360 wrote:
@lagruej wrote:
Out of the 4 times I've done this quest now, the only time I felt any emotion was the second time - and realistically it was probably because I was overtired from playing for 12 hours straight lol.
I mean, in theory the story is sad - but it's not executed well enough, and yeah the Cora sniffles just ruins it - because Cora doesn't strike me as the type to sniffle at things, even though I dislike her, I don't think she'd crack like that, totally not Asari Commando material.
Just because someone knows how to fight - doesn't mean they can't have a heart.
That wasn't the implication at all. But Asari Commandos don't crumble under pressure. Did you see Cora cry when Alec died, somebody she actually knew? What about when she found out about her mentor, did she cry then?
No. Because it's not Cora's character, simple enough.
