SUGGESTION: Tempest on planet

The explanation you originally used was quoted from some EA dude as excuse why this requested feature is so problematic. Quoting someone else without using your own words and then refuse to accept arguments against it and instead ask me to read your quoted words again as if am to stupid to understand something you just quoted from somebody else is silly and not worth my time.

Try again

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@Simpson3k wrote:

The explanation you originally used was quoted from some EA dude as excuse why this requested feature is so problematic. Quoting someone else without using your own words and then refuse to accept arguments against it and instead ask me to read your quoted words again as if am to stupid to understand something you just quoted from somebody else is silly and not worth my time.

Try again

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I didn't quote anybody and screw you...I was actually coming back to explain a little better. I thought maybe my last comment might have come across as rude and I didn't mean it to be.

A generic or static display for the windows was one of the very first things I suggested. I'm all for staying on the planet when boarding the Tempest.

So...whatever.

And by the way...show me the post I quoted. I have never seen an EA person even comment on the matter.

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@mckrackin5324 wrote:

Not many players own a machine that can render both the Tempest AND the world outside the window.

This takes a considerable amount of computing power.

It won't render your view from the window. It would have to render the whole world as if you were standing in that spot.

So NPCs walking around where you can't see them,would still be rendered.

So all the interactions in the ship and the world outside would have to be active.

They could make a generic view for the windows that didn't actually represent the active world but then your overseeing of the colony would not be accurate. Just a static landscape that never changes or evolves.

Or put terminals in all landing zones with access to email,strike teams etc etc

Hell,this stuff should be on your Omni-Tool.

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It lands in the same spot every time,  just show a still or animated image where the windows are,  and you have to go through loading doors on the tempest anyway so you'd just go through a load door by having the hangar doors open,  loading the world around you and just the cargo bay (Or other entrance),  then the doors close and unload,  ect.

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@Sirenapples wrote:

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@mckrackin5324 wrote:

They could make a generic view for the windows that didn't actually represent the active world .......

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It lands in the same spot every time,  just show a still or animated image where the windows are,  and you have to go through loading doors on the tempest anyway so you'd just go through a load door by having the hangar doors open,  loading the world around you and just the cargo bay (Or other entrance),  then the doors close and unload,  ect.

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I kinda said that in the post you quoted.

Agreed! It gets annoying after a while to constantly see landing/departure cutscene over and over again. A loading screenshot would do well. Or a "Skip" option.

Yeah, I don't accept the explanation that it'd be too intensive on CPU and GPU to render the ground exterior while you're aboard the Tempest because frankly it's not as if the game doesn't already horribly abuse a broken implementation of occlusion culling to cut down on scene complexity. There are multiple places in the game where simply rotating the camera causes large chunks of the map to appear and disappear when the resulting computational savings is minimal, and I'm playing on a damn laptop for crying out loud.

No, I have to figure the reason why they can't do this is because everything that's unique about the Tempest internal map would have to be duplicated several times over, once for each place the Tempest parks. If a bugfix involving scripted behavior inside the Tempest needs to be implemented, they'd have to duplicate it several times and check to make sure that the changes don't break anything specific to each iteration of that map.

You are probably right, in addition to that I believe scene specific dialogues as sequences are attached to it as well. 

I stated somewhere earlier that they should make a work around. A watered-down version of the interior, that looks and feels similar, but maybe does not come with all the features attached.... Or if that is too much, just the Cargo Bay

Hm ... we actually want to access information and small things in the Tempest, right? What about you have a small menu off-shore showing the things you can do in your ship without really going there? It becomes an assumption that you went to your ship etc., but the factual thing is that a menu of the map of your ship will appear with hotspots for your to choose: e-mail terminal, load out, researching etc.

Whenever you got to your ship, you would have 2 options: take off and fast access. That way, it wouldn't require Terabytes of data knitted as excuses not to make it viable.

Well a much simpler and maybe even more RPG plausible way would be to simply fit the Tempest with heavy metal shutters for all the windows that will close when grounded, when you think about it a lot of these worlds are extremely hostile and it would be a good idea to shield the craft and occupants by fortifying any weak spots such as windows and this way you would not have to render an exterior for each planet 😉

I know it would be cool to have an "open-world" Tempest where you could drive your Nomad directly into the cargo bay (personally I always drive it all the way up the ramp before I get out and manually access the Tempest hehe), but like it has been pointed out it would require a massive amount of work to make this possible and I don't think it will be worth spending the time or resources on it when other things are more pressing 🙂

That would be bare minimum, like an MVP or so..... For me I would love to overview a planet from the Bridge and My Cabin as well as see the lighting in the gathering room. 

Also actually driving into the ship would be amazing, so the most plausible MVP would be to "just" render the Cargo Bay and have every door gooing away from that part shut (blablabla radiation blablabbla decontermination process.....) something llike that as an explanation. 

And I stated somewhere else that your buddies should roam around the colony IF it is a safe colony (EOS, New Tuchanka, etc...)