The point of the Overlord DLC

@draconiam

I believe that, by seeing what occurred to David, we have a more personal idea of the relationship between the Quarians and the Geth. We’re told by Tali, and other Quarians, about how bad/good killing the Geth is and, of course, we understand but only as an outsider.

When we see what happens to David, and we get the usual “this was necessary” BS, are understanding of the Mourning War becomes nuanced. This always why I undertake Overlord before initiating Legions loyalty mission. I think the point of Overlord is wasted if you do it after completing the game.

The Geth dying to the Red Wave is just one more reason the endings are bad in ME3.  Geth are SOFTWARE, and a red energy wave SHOULD NOT be able to differentiate between the 100111010 of a Geth and the 0110100101 of an Environmental program inside a Quarian Lifesuite, which we know from talking to Tali if you save both, that the Geth are loading themselves into Quarian Lifesuite to simulate illness to kickstart Quarian immune systems.   We where hit over the head that Geth are software, and to make a point and to try and make the ending decision harder, Bioware decided to ignore this and kill them anyway.

To me, after the Geth Fighter Squadron mission, talking to Tali in ME1 about the Morning War, and seeing the unrelenting hatred and attacks on the Geth, my sympathy is with the Geth over the Quarians.  At least Tali seems to get it, but most other Quarians are too mired in their hatred and bias for me to feel any remorse if I have to pick between them and the Geth.

@draconiam

They put Edi’s name on the memorial wall to signify that she is officially dead… but, with what you’re all saying (and what I’ve though since the original Mass Effect 3) is there is no reason to believe that they are entirely gone. I’ve had this debate since the Bioware Forum days, and I still don’t agree that the conscious intelligence of the the Geth or Edi are gone, just the physicality of them.

The Catalyst even ask Shepard “can you imagine organics living without synthetics, even you are part synthetic”. So, why didn’t Shepard just fall to pieces. What about the L2 and L3 implanted people. I believe that what made the Reapers what they were was more than just code, like they had given the Geth or what was used to uplift Edi. The Reapers were the essence of an entire galaxy’s worth of the cumulative organic physical consciousness, the very thing that made them powerful.

It was this overwhelming consciousness that could worm into peoples heads and indoctrinate them. This was not code. Therefore, there’s a difference between Reaper Tech and being a Reaper. The Geth and Edi weren’t Reapers and, thus, should not have been killed by the Red Wave.

Now, some will say that since Bioware’s developers had said that the endings were literal and what see is what happened, I reserve the right to keep to my own canon, especially when the canon endings were rushed and ridiculous, at least that’s my opinion.