10 years ago
blackridge rivals
is anyone else having trouble with these races? i seem to have lost just as many as ive won and more often than not if you "just" win a race you gain less points than you lose if you "just" lose a ra...
Woke up this morning, did 5 Blackridge Rivals races, and won all 5 of them.
Now here's something different about today from yesterday.
I didn't get an AI ghost opponent after winning 3 Rivals races against real player ghost opponents.
I'm like "That's weird, but whatevs..."
I did 2 Blackridge Rivals races when I got a maxed fuel notification.
I won one of the races, but I lost the other by my mistakes. My SP score dropped from 5231 to 5181.
Well, that was my wake-up call.
I think AI ghost opponents are removed from Blackridge Rivals now and they're my only source of gaining SP.
Now I'll only get no SP from winning and lose 50 SP from losing, making it impossible to gain the SP I had lost.
It's time for me to sit on the sidelines and watch the action unfold while drinking a cup of tea.
@TheRealJony wrote:
@jin1995x wrote:
3) Good times, i have had similar times tooo, but you got me in the first race ! Great time buddy!
Thanks man! 🙂
How about you post your times here? I can try to attempt to beat your times whenever the game selects the track for me to race on.
This ain't happening anymore since I cease to recover any SP if I lose any races.
Shame it has to be this way because I want to still race in Blackridge Rivals despite me as #1 and having Icon rank III.
@TheRealJony wrote:
@jin1995x wrote:
taking a little break from the game
Well, I can see why after your frustration with the game's pathetic SP rewards and cheaters.
Enjoy your break!
So jin1995x, can I join you?
You got a piece of Kit-Kat? I brought popcorn. 😃
@TheRealJony wrote:
@jin1995x wrote:
i look to race your best times when i continue with rivals.
Awesome!
I'm looking forward to beating your best times (if you do post them).
Not happening anymore. 😢
@TheRealJony wrote:
@jin1995x wrote:
Btw what's the cap of losing? Like winning has a 60sp cap.
It depends on how many SP you have.
When I had around 4800 SP, the maximum amount of SP I had lost was 55.
Now, the maximum amount of SP I lose is 50.
Now for winning cap:
When I had around 4800 SP, the maximum amount of SP I had won was 55.
Now, there's no maximum amount of SP I can win. Since I've gone past 5100 SP, the amount of SP I've been winning is decreasing each time I win a race against an AI ghost opponent.
I bet I'll win no SP from beating an AI ghost opponent eventually. I'm waiting for that to happen. lol 😃
Even if I'm not gaining SP from winning against AI ghost opponents, I'm still going to do Blackridge Rivals races.
You can say I'm fearless. 👿
This happened, but not in the way I expected.
I get no AI ghost opponents now, so I'll only be racing with real player ghost opponents which all of them have lower SP scores than me. Winning 0 SP and losing 50 SP.
I'll go cower under rocks now and everyone can pretend I don't exist. XD
R.I.P. JonyTheGirlLover (TheRealJony)
September 21, 2016 - October 26, 2016
Died from massive cowarditus.
lol 😃
@TheRealJony wrote:
It's one thing to reach Icon rank and stop once you've reached it, but it's another thing to push yourself and keep racing despite reaching the Icon ranks. 😉
Another thing I take back. 🤐
I only said this since it was possible to recover lost SP from winning against AI ghost opponents. Now that AI ghost opponents are gone, it's impossible to gain back any SP from losses.
Sigh. I still want to do Blackridge Rivals races, but I only risk losing SP if I continue to do them.
@jin1995x wrote:
@scottfollettthis is precisely why having a lead early on gets you a good exploit to maintain your top rank, i haven't played after reaching 4.5k a few days back, but i am sure if i keep playing more and get more sp even i 'd get more ai .
@jin1995x I think AI ghost opponents got removed since today.
I didn't get an AI ghost opponent after winning 3 Rivals races against real player ghost opponents today.
@jin1995x wrote:
Now think of this if ai were absent in the races and you were always paired with real players giving minimum sp depending on how far they are from you,you'd lose a lot more points and gaining them back would be pretty difficult, like tudor rightly said how it is in the 4.4k's.The result would be much lesser difference in the sp of top 2-3 versus the rest.
This has come true.
AI ghost opponents had been removed from Blackridge Rivals. I had only raced real player ghost opponents and gained 0 SP for winning. 😬
Impossible to gain back any SP that I lost.
I'm now experiencing what you guys felt for the past couple of weeks.
@7ru3blu3 wrote:
About the 4500 limbo thing... I actually find it weird and statistically impossible. I reached 4200 mark 10 days ago, I've been playing continuously and never made it past 4375 (5th position, and players at pos 2-4 at thst time have been kicked). Now, may be I am bad, but it is impossible for all 100+ players with 4200sp to be equally bad at the same time. BRR seem rigged to me. Looks like your SP is a function of number of BRR races you play.
@7ru3blu3 With more people climbing up on the leaderboards and reaching Icon rank, you'll probably have an easier time now to get SP. (Note I bolded "probably")
I do see some "leaderboard wannabes" or "Icon wannabes" on the leaderboards. I recognize the names when they were removed from the leaderboards a while ago.
I do have to say that SP rewards in Blackridge Rivals needs some retuning.
The rewards given right now are absolutely pathetic.
@WildeKnight07 wrote:
OK, I'm really getting over BRR, probably 'cos I don't get it! I'm now 631 races in and it's just not making any sense to me.
What skills are we to master to actually progress? (forget racing well, just get really good at avoiding ramps, obstacles, electronic stuns, traffic & roadblocks)
@WildeKnight07 1. Driving skills (obviously)
2. Using Nitrous at the right time and at the right places on a track
3. Taking ramps if it helps to take them
4. Dodging ramps if it's suicide to take them
5. Remembering the police roadblocks set ups and dodging them
6. Remember where ESFs are activated on a track and dodging them
7. Weave through traffic
I'm Captain Obvious on overtime. XD
WildeKnight07 wrote:What impact does PR have on racing performance? (We aren't shown what PR our opponent's car is on)
It depends.
Most of the time, increasing your PR can increase your chances of winning.
However, you'll have to adjust your reaction accordingly when approaching a turn.
To put this in a better perspective, I'll use an example.
Say there's two Koenigsegg CCXs with 709 PR and 999 PR.
The driver with the 709 PR CCX can corner much later due to its slower performance.
The driver with the 999 PR CCX has to corner much earlier due to its faster performance or they will collide onto a wall.
WildeKnight07 wrote:What impact does SP level have on racing performance? (We'd all love to know the answer to this question)
None.
A low or high SP score does NOT have any impact on racing performance.
Besides if a high SP score does have any effect on racing performance, then I would be winning Rivals races left and right continuously. (And get accused of cheating even more! XD)
WildeKnight07 wrote:What's the benefit (reward) for reaching the various levels up to Icon? (uuuh, why exactly are we doing this again?)
At the moment, for bragging rights.
People get to brag about being one of the best racers and elite players for reaching the Icon rank. That's what it says on "How to play" in Blackridge Rivals. 😉
I have that bragging right and jin1995x has that bragging right as well. Maybe TudorSicaru and scottfollett can get those bragging rights too. 🙂
However, I do see some "Icon wannabes" on the leaderboards...
When the preseason ends, then the rewards will be revealed.
@WildeKnight07 wrote:
What's the point of BRR then?
The reasons above.
1. Bragging rights (Reach Icon rank and you could go around and say "I'm one of the best racers and elite players in Blackridge City!!!" XD)
2. Rewards at the end
@WildeKnight07 wrote:
Yes, I make mistakes in races or could have raced better, but no more than previously (in fact I know I've reduced mistakes and improved technique), yet suddenly I'm being smoked by cars with 200SP less than me. What changed? I didn't have a stroke, or grow tentacles for thumbs, and I didn't change my gaming technique, but the game suddenly had it 'in for me'... it's like someone tied a tractor to my bumper and removed the steering wheel!
Nothing changed.
You have a good technique. Now you need an even better technique.
There's always room for improvement.
@WildeKnight07 wrote:
Bottom line... BRR doesn't make any sense to me. If I'm the only one who feels this way , then I should probably have my MENSA status revoked and book myself in for a brain scan.
Now that's a little extreme, isn't it...? 🤔
@scottfollett wrote:
Started the day bad but got back up to 4421 sp...don't know if I wanna play again! The comeback started with this race!
@scottfollett What track was it?
It looked like Blackridge Channel from the finish.
I could do a WAY better time than that. Even have a screenshot to prove that.
I messed up so badly in that race. XD
@TudorSicaru wrote:
Hi Jony,
You made a long post there lol 🙂
@TudorSicaru Well, I just made another extremely long post. lol
Took me hours to make it. (I took breaks in between to rest my fingers. XD)
@TudorSicaru wrote:
I might be checking this place as well from time to time :D but you know..it's hard to find free time..
I completely understand.
Whenever you have time, feel free to drop by. 🙂
@TudorSicaru wrote:
About the actual season...even if vip player gets more tickets I'm pretty confident it won't make such a big difference (as in tournaments for example) since what matters is the quality of their gameplay. As long as a player wins the same % of his races and doesn't improve his driving skills, he won't go up in SP no matter how many tickets he'll spend 🙂
Those are my thoughts. Nice meeting you too 🙂
That may be true, but I look at the bigger picture.
Let's say two people have the same driving skills as each other. However, one person is a free player that has a maximum limit of 5 Rivals tickets while the other person is a paid player that has a maximum limit of 6 Rivals tickets.
The paid player will have one race extra over the free player and even having one race extra is a big advantage since they both have the same driving skills. The paid player would already be ahead of the free player when the new season just started.
On top of that, everyone needs to sleep. Everyone needs to get 8 hours of sleep. So when the free player and paid player wake up, the free player will have 5 Rivals tickets ready to be used while the paid player will have 6 Rivals tickets ready to be used. This repeats over, and over, and over again.
Now let's bring in VIP Level 10 player to the mix.
Both the free player and the VIP Level 10 player have the same driving skills as each other. Free player has a maximum limit of 5 Rivals tickets while VIP Level 10 player has a maximum limit of 10 Rivals tickets.
The VIP Level 10 player will have five races extra over the free player and five races extra is a REALLY BIG advantage!
Both players sleep for 8 hours. Both wake up and the free player will have 5 Rivals tickets ready to be used while the VIP Level 10 player will have 8 Rivals tickets to be used. Repeat, repeat.
This is already pay2win, but it gets a heck of a lot worse...
If a free player chooses to spend 60 Gold to refill Rivals tickets, they get 5 Rivals tickets refilled. If a VIP Level 10 player chooses to spend 60 Gold to refill Rivals tickets, they get 10 RIVALS TICKETS REFILLED!!!
Goodness Gracious! 😮
@jin1995x wrote:
@TheRealJony Well i was just explaining why others would think you are a cheater and why you shouldn't get so freaked out by it, since you are at the top, and the game has a flurry of hackers, they are bound to think you are hacking too when they don't know your full story, so they are bound to think that, whether it is correct or incorrect is entirely another thing.
@jin1995x Like I said from my previous post, people have to race me and then they'll find out that I'm the real deal.
If people haven't race me, then all they can do is guess, make assumptions, and that leads to misconceptions.
Since you and TudorSicaru now know I'm legit, that's one step closer to proving to everyone I'm legit.
And it's a very good thing too as the powers of word-of-mouth can do wonders in this situation.
It's like this:
No one will believe anything from someone if they're the only one saying they're not cheating.
But if that someone has other people behind their back covering for them, then it starts to become believable and it can't be denied as it's the truth.
Word-of-mouth is a very powerful tool. It can spread like a virus and help make a story more believable.
Now I know there are closed-minded people out there who will always think I'm a cheater despite being fed the truth. In that case, they would just be a lost cause.
@jin1995x wrote:
Everyone beats everyone means , now i have done 20.xx on the airvolt but i have also done 24.xx on the airvolt, who gets what isn't in my hands, and since rivals is more about consistency, rather than best times . Exactly how scottfollett, could beat you and many ofhers who might have beaten you. We can't if we can't say if we could beat each other if we had the best times pitted.
You do make a point here.
I guess I can call myself "Mr. Consistency" as I was able to stay in the 5000 SP zone after dropping from 5200 SP to 5080 SP one time. 😉
@jin1995x wrote:
BTW good you use tilt, even i use tilt, you're only the 3rd player i have come across who uses tilt everyone else is like touch.
The reason I use tilt is it's the closest thing to driving a car with a steering wheel. lol
Touch and Slide don't feel like anything close to driving a car with a steering wheel. XD
@jin1995x wrote:
All right i'l post my times when i continue with rivals right now i just have one screenshot which was from the race where on starting you have a ramp, after getting out of the first tunnel, you face a ramp again so you need to avoid that and before the finish line you get a ramp again, I don't remember the track name! I can do better here i guess , just attaching it.
I know this race name, track name, and everything.
It's Levitation Rush: Track is Blackridge Strip Chase and it's during the night.
By the way, I take the ramp after the first tunnel but I do avoid the ramps after the second tunnel. 😉
Now the sad part is I can't attempt to beat your time...
I don't get AI ghost opponents anymore, so it's impossible to recover any SP if I lost any races.
I'm just really disappointed. I want to play more Blackridge Rivals races even though I'm #1 and achieved Icon rank III, but that was when I knew I could get back any lost SP from losses by winning against AI ghost opponents.
Sigh. I'll just wait for the next Blackridge Rivals season to race more.
I don't want to throw my #1 spot and Icon rank III down the drain. Just 3 losses is enough for that to happen.
@scottfollett wrote:
It was TheRealJony but I thought he might delete the pic if I showed his name...
I only remove screenshots if cheaters' names are visible.
Other than that, feel free to post any screenshots. Including screenshots of you beating me.
@NFS_Sandro wrote:
No way... You mean our saviour is a hacker?
@NFS_Sandro What do you think?
@scottfollett wrote:
@TheRealJony I can't remember the track name 'cause I've only raced it once and I was too focused on winning cause I needed the SP! Lol! Whenever I race anyone that's in the top 5 I get a long track packed full of traffic...first time I tried to drift and I was done before I even got started!
@scottfollett Alright, I know the race name, track name, and everything.
It's Bypass Run: Track is Blackridge Channel and it's during the night.
I definitely have a screenshot to prove I can do a WAY better time than that, but my iPod Touch is screwing with me at the moment as I'm unable to import any images to my PC. -.-
@scottfollett wrote:
Seems more like a survival race than a speed trial actually...are all your races of this length now? 99% of mine are completed in under 25s unless they are the same as the ones I mentioned above...
I get races that last around 20 seconds and I get races that last around 30 seconds.
However, I'm sitting at the sidelines and drinking my cup of tea now. I'm unable to regain any SP lost if I lose a race in Blackridge Rivals.
@scottfollett wrote:
I noticed, and raced, some of those wannabe's yesterday and I was rotted to say the least...even though I only lost to one of them!
I hope those leaderboard wannabes or Icon wannabes get banned ASAP.
They're all such a nuisance.
@jin1995x wrote:
@TheRealJony imagine how brutal it'd be if you didn't get any ai in the first place back then, everyone one would have kept hovering netween 4.5k-4.7k, and in that case being in top 15 or top 10 would be the ideal goal, since thefirst person is just a function of consistency at the right time before the event ends.
@jin1995x I can imagine it must be brutal to gain SP if you only got to race real player ghost opponents with a much lower SP score than you. And winning those races could award you with 1 SP each race (maybe even 0 SP).
I commend you, TudorSicaru, and anyone else except leaderboard wannabes or Icon wannabes that reached Icon rank I even though the game didn't give AI ghost opponents to race with.
Now I feel like I have to defend myself a little here.
It's not my fault the game gives me AI ghost opponents to race.
All I've been doing is the same as everyone else. And that is clicking "Race" to race in Blackridge Rivals.
Now the difference is the game (Yea, the game) gives me an AI ghost opponent while the game gives everyone else a real player ghost opponent. Also, add to the fact that nobody can choose the opponents we want to race in Blackridge Rivals.
Since the game gave me an AI ghost opponent, it's beyond my power to do anything about it. I couldn't avoid getting an AI ghost opponent.
If I chose to retire from racing the AI ghost opponent, I'll have my SP score deducted.
If I chose to force close the game and launch the game again, I'll have my SP score deducted AND I'll still have the same AI ghost opponent to race for the second time.
If the game gives me an AI ghost opponent, then the game gives me an AI ghost opponent. There's nothing I can do about it.
We now know that AI ghost opponents weren't intended to be in Blackridge Rivals. However, it would be wrong to punish me for playing the game how it's supposed to be played.
All I did was click "Race" to start a Blackridge Rivals race and I got an AI ghost opponent instead of a typical real player ghost opponent.
It would be the game's fault for giving me an AI ghost opponent.
The devs removed AI ghost opponents from Blackridge Rivals, but they kept me at #1 as the damage was already done. It's too late to change anything about it.
If I get banned by just playing the game how it's supposed to be played, then I would just leave everything about No Limits in my rear-view mirror and move on with my life.