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- Anonymous9 years agoGood morning to all of you! ^_^
I'm not native speaker english so I really hope that all of you can understand me well.
Some of you maybe remember me cause I wrote my opinion to this horrible DLC and trophy a month ago in this thread. 🙂
After 1 and a half month hard trying to get this trophy I was finally successful and I have my 100% back.
I'm not an elite racer girl and the trophy was pain as hell and no FUN for sure. In my opinion this trophy has to be patched because Need for Speed is full of bugs, performing problems, lags, time counter issue and the AI and the random spawn of cars are super unfair!!!
And, in my opinion, I'm not proud to have this trophy and I don't feel good after getting it!
I don't need to be best or better than other people just to feel better and I don't like to mess with other just to proof that I'm the better gamer girl. I'm a trophy hunter like most of you all here!!!
Trophy hunter like to get 100% in all of their games. Trophy hunter like to make friends and help each other getting trophies together. Trophy hunter often are very active in forums and helping other people with tipps and tricks to make things easier...Trophy hunter wrote trophy guides or make videos to help other people and in my opinion, trophy hunters feel good if they could help other to get trophies! ^_^
And trophy hunter are the people who bought every DLC in games, no matter good or bad, no matter expensive or not, just to get the new trophies and get their 100% and just to figure out first how the new trophies get to unlock and help other while playing through the DLC.
We are not many but we are the people who support games full. I always bought my games if they are new. I often preorder them and support the game til no DLC is coming out. We are the people who now get the punish for our beloved way to play! DLC's will always added with trophies to our profil, no matter if we want them or not. We get punish with lots of DLC's which are expensive and not nice but we bought and deal with them. :/
We have to trust the game development company's.
We are defininetly not a group of people who loved to get a trophy like this and we proof wisely before we bought and install a game on our profil!
And here is the main problem: People who love to get hard challenges will love this DLC and trophy hunter won't like that sh**.
All other, and this means 90% of the NfS causual gamer not even finish the game yet and will never care for the prestige mode!
The developer (Ghost) decided to make this bad DLC for their hardcore gamer (2% of all NfS gamer?) and punished us with that. (Trophy hunter 5 to 7% of all NfS gamer?)
And thats it! No respond from them if we ask for help, no answer from them on twitter, facebook, NfS forum...but here we get an answer which is not helpful at all but an answer. I think EA Tom forwarded all from here to EA but he got no answers too so what should he give us back if the developer not care for us or work on a patch?
My personal trophy after all that mess and pain with this DLC is, I made really good new friends. I made it with my article I wrote about this mess, in the actual new episode of the play 4 magazin in germany. The biggest and best PS4 magazin we have here. I got my 100% back!
But I although lost my trust in EA and won't buy any games from them cause I'll never install a game of EA again on my profil before the last DLC is out! Dragon Age Inquisition and Need for Speed learned me this lesson!
After all, I think that working through this DLC is the only way to get that trophy done like Zera and I did. And for sure, it is pain as hell but it is doable if you really want that trophy...just don't give up trying and restarting races over and over again was my way through it...
Finally, I really don't like that game development companys decide about how we like to play! I love to get 100%! EA don't help and support me with that...I don't care for EA anymore! Greetings Dini. ^_^
*Good luck to all of you who go for the trophy!* - Anonymous9 years ago
Hey EA_Tom,
I hope that you see what Dini wrote. Her opinion shows exactly what I also think. I'm sure that you didn't again understand what she says but still I want to emphasize that your trophy was NO FUN AT ALL (if you want to know why I write in capitals here check my last post lol). If that was your goal you achieve it. Battlefield was my favorite FPS (over 400 hours on it and 100% trophy achievement) and believe me I won't buy the new one.
@Dini-400 : Really want to congratulate you on what you wrote. Your English is perfect so you don't have to worry about it 🙂 If you are writing articles for some magazines please continue to tell everyone what EA does. They really don't deserve to be on the market with this attitude to the people who are paying their salaries.
- Anonymous9 years ago
I agree with Dini beside what a pleasure is did this hard when people didn't make choice when You think about how many people lost few years hard work to keep own profile and spent a lot money? In name what they have to lose what they did? What they did bad to You? Always support You bought every DLC and this is for Your thanks for them? Beside who tested this DLC because i think that no one because someone wrote that was passing and release this DLC. I am 100% that even developer who did is not able do this. So if even guy who did this not even able reach all gold why he released something? Where is logic with this? Because i don't see any logic and this guy know nothing about reasonable hard. This was programmed for over and over restarting until maybe You got one chance with this on 100 attempts but players is too sometimes exhausted to use this chance and once again have to sacriface a lot time to do this when know that can do this when is not too much traffic. If this will be depends from skill I understand but this depends from luck, makes only frustration and after did 1 of 41 gold think yes I did, left 40 (or less) to fight with the same my god...Got a lot quit rage,makes a lot frustration and not even fun. Why i have to be proud with this? If this game was in the beginning hard i can understand because this was my choice i decided check my skills, and want learn something new to be better and got better skills. But tell me guys what learn in this guys. Sorry but drift I learned in Hot Porsuit and used this only difference was that I often turn left and right but rule was the same what I learned erlier. Now understand what is wrong? And not buy any game from You if this not fixed because in short time You did:
1. Released DLC, broke game and did nothing
2. Support EA/Ghost did nothing not even got respond which means this is disrespectufll customers.
3. Did the same with NFS, Battlefield and did nothing. Sorry but I will not sacriface my hard job on this profile who spent a lot money because someone can't think and do reasonable hard.
4. Once again proofed us that customers threat give us money and get lost. Never of course told us this but Your action told us very clearly.
5. Lost customers who supported a lot years including me who bought a lot games. I was with You from beginning until now because were too much actions that can hold this more and better is avoid Your games.
6. Lost also trust who is very important because we dont need advertisment because we always bought Your game in blind and told this is EA and this must be good if not propably next game will be better. We hold a lot with You even not complain that Undercover was bad, Rivals also wasn't good but never complain on You.
7. Hardcoore gamers is more important 2% than others. Ok so 2% will buy Your games and we will see how You will be smart because instead listening players read something constructive do something. You are international company and hold this ok. So hold this but count that every year lost milion dollars in every game or more. So count how many money will You lost and THIS TIME ADVERTISMENT THAT YOU LISTEN PLAYERS NOT HELP YOU BECAUSE USED THIS FEW YEARS EARLIER. WE EVEN DIDN'T NEEDED THIS BUT REMEMBER
Bravo only can say bravo, closed support franchise game who don't have even year who will believe that in new NFS and others game will not the same. Franchise game should be more supported than usual game. You killed Yourselft with Your behaviour and this
Zera
- Anonymous9 years ago
I'm just writing here to let the developers see that there is even more people angry/sad with this new DLC trophies (despite of the speedlist mode is great). I don't have anything more to add at this post that has not been said before, just showing them that the are not only a couple of users mad with this trophy. Maybe we should run some kind of initiative like collecting signatures on change.org (we could share the page through all trophy/achievment communities).
Besides this, I'm always a day1 buyer, I buy the games when they're released so I never can see trophies from future DLC (but trophy lists influence what I buy, like The Elder Scrolls Online). The original difficult of NFS and it's trophies is totally incoherent with this last DLC, and I'm pretty sure that if I would have known this from the beginning, the game would still be in the store and not in my collection. With the next game of EA will not happen again, I won't buy a game until it has all DLCs released (and for sure the game will be in much lower price) and also won't buy the next game of Ghost for protest until this trophy isn't fixed. If you fix it I will change my mind and surely buy the next NFS game.
And concluding, a month ago more or less, you were really proud putting posts on Facebook and Twitter accounts of NFS telling you listened the community. We can now see how true it is.
Thanks for reading me, hoping that Ghost Games also reads it and listens to us.
I have been a achievement/trophy hunter since the Xbox 360, trying to get 100% on all my games. I am a completionist and a perfectionist. I have a bit of OCD aswell, when it comes to trophies. I have 100% on all of my other games, and I had 100% on this too, until this DLC came out.
I have finished both hard games and easy games in the past. I have done some really hard trophies aswell, and I like the challenge. But this DLC for Need for Speed must be the worst I have ever played. The game was easy, the trophies was easy, even the DLC trophies before this was doable. I cant for the life of me understand why this had to be done? The times for gold are just insane. Its almost impossible to get gold when all the bugs, traffic, online gamers and objects are all against you. Its just damn cheap. You have to spend not hours, but an INSANE amount of time to get gold times, and only with luck is this possible. Not skills. LUCK. What kind of prestige challenge is this, when its based on luck? I cant understand how developers just release stuff, without testing it first. How was this approved? Must have been the laziest attempt I have seen in a long time. This was a very shameful thing to do to your fans and supporters.
And now there is over hundreds of people complaining and you just ignore this? This DLC is broken, and needs to be fixed. How can you guys do nothing? There is still time to fix this. I am so angry that I cant 100% this game, because you guys released a DLC with impossible times, thats both broken and based on luck. Because of you, as of now, my trophy list is imcomplete. I will never buy a Need for Speed or Ghost game again, if this doenst get fixed. This is just shameful to do to your fans. The game had easy trophies all the way, why would you just change this with the last DLC? Its like a "screw you" for all the trophy hunters. A disgrace.- Also099 years agoNew AdventurerWhat's crazy is that peoplea have been voicing their concerns since Day 1. 2 months later, everyone is still complaining, and Ghost Games whose clearly know by now that gamers are strongly against it, refuse to do something. Remember when Microsoft made a new anti used games policy for their Xbox One ? It turned to ** . But they've quickly backtracked. Maybe you guys should learn from Microsoft.
@Dini-400 perfectly written Dini. 100% agree with what you wrote
Personally I'd say it's a good thing that your 100% has been ruined. Confining yourself to playing games that you're able to complete means you're missing out, for better or worse. Now that this has been forced upon you, you may be able to get over that compulsion and enjoy more games without having to worry whether they're too difficult to play.
If these prestige events were part of the game from the start you may have never even considered playing Need for Speed. Ignoring the fact that you're unhappy with how things have turned out now, would that have been a good thing?
Plus, it's always the risk when playing games while they're still being supported with new content. It's happened here and I'm sure it'll happen again at some point as DLC is more prevalent than ever. At least they didn't add a broken and literally unachievable trophy before calling it a day. There's always that, I guess.
The difference between this and the Microsoft thing was that it was a decision that negatively affected everyone. It took away freedoms that previous consoles offered, threatened to ruin businesses and gave Microsoft total control over game pricing. It was huge and would've changed the gaming industry as we knew it, if people had sat by and let it go ahead.
This is just vocal minority of less than a hundred people who are/were annoyed they lost their 100% and will probably all be buying the next Need for Speed regardless. The situations can't be compared so there's nothing EA can really take from that.
The NFS community and gamers as a whole would probably shrug this thread off and wonder why people are getting so worked up over optional content.
- Also099 years agoNew Adventurer@Shadiochao, I really see your point but you seem to mix up 2 things which are
1) The achievements
2) The bugs of this game
You seem to think that we want the achievement difficulty to be toned down. Which is true. But the real problem reside in the inconsistencies that this DLC has put to light. I'm pretty sure that by now you know damn well what the problema are, but in case you don't know or forgot what @Zerathel has been showing all along, here they are.
- Cars only seem to care more of roaming on you than driving
- Random cars in the street (Trucks, etc)
- Random AI cars coming up from the otherside to slam into you
- Only 3-4 cars to this day are able to do the job
- Automatic is no longuer useful players are forced to use manual when the whole game was based on automatic. The new update came out and gave us this possibility then this update forces us to use that regardless of we like manual or not
- Random glitches happen (Sometimes the cars just don't drive at the start somehow then you lucky)
- Time being add to your score... up to 3 seconds (Happened to me 2 seconds got added up)
I recall you saying "Who said thay achievements couldn't be luck based ?" If something is luck based, then you shouldn't have to work your way to go through it, you could just push your luck to the max. This is not what none of the peoples that has it did tho. They had to rage, scream, sweats and tears were drop, and all that just for this. I can really see your point now I'm asking you to see mine. What about the list I gave you, does it makes sense to you that time is being added ? If you say yes, Ill take for granted that this debate is over. - Also099 years agoNew Adventurer@Shadiochao also, when Microsoft made those modifications, it didn't affect 100% of the peoples. Look on the internet, lots of peoples were happy about it. But here we are, because the majority wanted some change. It dosen't mean that we were right at all, they only followed the majority. Now in this case, if we are a minority which we are not if you look on TA, TT, Playstation Magazine UK, Xbox Forums too, Angry Joe Youtube, you can see that this update has dissapointed a lot of fans of the serie. However, if they do fox those bugs that ive listed, because look at the list again and tell me I'm delusionnal Ill end the debate. But if you see that I'm right, then know that those bugs affect a lot of communities. Otherwise why there would be 32 pages, why ? @Zerathel, @M1ke @Demi @Everybody, I could list you easily a hundread of peoplea hoping for some change. Again, if you want it to stay this way cause you done it and don't want it to be more realistic for others, then I'm done debating about it.