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- Anonymous9 years ago
I can only say that people started aware friends, trophyhunters/achievement hunters. Right now each one here have a at least 75 friends. I have more than 100. Do You realize what happen when people will start message to friends about this situation? We got in friends causal players, trophy/achievement/ hunters. So this is not dying topic and propably will never die. This is will be great example how we threaten good or bad. Your choice not my. Also I would like admit that someone let see Activision will announced that they will start listen players. Right now people immediatelly choose CoD instead Battlefield. How will be big lost? Big. Right I can tell that will be a lot lost money. Yesterday I read news about DLC to BF that PS got late. Ok thank You but who will be buy if people start aware how customers are threaten. Right now for me this is sensation in this Year how can easily turn against a lot player from own games. I didn't even realize that this possible but You proven that is.
About buying Your games. Right now only right now what i know. My friends who buy FIFA every year both version because platinium stack. I mean version America and Europe will not buy. Always buy when game was released. The same guy buy Need For Speed. I wanted buy Mirrors Edge, Battlefield right now don't do this. Got a lot friends and can read here that a lot players don't want buy New Need For Speed an even when You announcd that this the best game in this Year a lot not buy this, because after reaction from Your side like said earlier is hard believe.
About DLC Speedlist. I managed 12 gold but mistakes and problems with handing, traffic is bigger than I supposed. 95% races depends from luk how respawn cars not Your skills. First race Amy show me this because when I had great time always in the middle stay car who can't avoid. Can't because got very high speed can't slow because time is very hard to achieve I mean Gold and always end the same. Crash car. Right now did a lot 30 people. Don't telling me that this was challenge because when this was challenging reasonable will be more people with trophy/achievement because everyone here got skills to achieve this that show trophy with 350k Drift with Car Ken o Block who hard. This was definetally hard, some race Eddie also was hard because i repeat a lot time to win. When I read about challenge in this game have to disagree because right now like I said mostly depends from luck Playing around 2 weeks this DLC or more don't even count but frustration is higher than fun. This is not even fun, and don't feel even emotions when achieve gold because I am too exhausted and haven't strange to show emotion feel happy. Right now after releasing patch soon will be month and topic is still hot like was. In my opinion right now is hotter than was.
P.S
I also am very proud being part of this community when a lot people write loud opinions. The same opinions got Xbox community so something is wrong don't think EA? Look both community, we don't even play together and never play because are different servers but understand each other very well. Maybe this is right time do something with this mess?
- Anonymous9 years agoFirst one, I'm not native speaker english. I'm from germany and I hope my english is well enough.
I had to come back here because I'm so sick of trying one event over and over again, for days and still NO LUCK! Why do I need LUCK if I drive the event perfectly? I don't get it and it makes me upset! Luck, that no other player drives in my way, no random car falls from the SKY! right in front of my car or appears out of nowhere just to ruin my run and that the game not lost connection to the server or lags badly AND that the game recognized that I reached the race end and no time delay happens. >:/
For one race event which I can drive perfectly, I need days of restarting cause ALWAYS something bugged out or knocked me out! I'm so very sick of trying and hoping for LUCK!!!
My problem with the prestige mode are the ingame BUGS which are coming with the last update. Please, someone here, please tell me how could I train better to prevent lags??? In some race events, you started with the AI and ALWAYS my game lags badly and I drove in slow motion BUT the time clock runs in normal speed. I lost 4-5 seconds just in the beginning from the event and it is impossible to get gold for me if I have to drive 5 seconds faster then the gold time requires. Random cars popped out of nowhere or just fallin from the sky and always I have a time delay if I reach the race end which cost me 2-3 seconds too. In total I have to drive 8 seconds faster then the gold time requires and of course I need LUCK too. Cool, how to train that? Please tell me...I'm getting slightly mad with that sh**!
I'm not stupid, I'm not blind! I watched the gold medal videos PC player made, over and over again BUT I play on the PS 4 and my game don't run well and not in the same way PC player shows me. PC player can select to "play alone" . Me not cause this function is broken after the last update. PC Version load random cars better and earlier so they can avoid to chrash in, I cannot. There is definetly no time delay in the PC Version. If a PC player reach the race end, the last time the game shows is for example 1, 37, 60 and in total the player gets 1, 37, 80 and rewarded with gold. If I reach the race end with exact the same time as the PC Player has, my total is 1, 39, 80 and rewarded with silver. Where did I lost the 2 seconds? I lost them due to a time delay bug if I reach my race end.
I'm smart! I learned that restarting the game prevents the lags so I have to restart my game every single hour just to have not so many lags. This is fun NOT! >:/
What I do so far:
I contacted the EA Support everywhere. Twitter, here, follow many links, NfS forum BUT no respond if these bugs are knowing bugs and if there will be a fix?!
I contacted a german playstation magazin and reported all the mess to them and thank god, they answered and send me more contact Infos for EA Support and they will test this on the PS 4. I really hope, it will get mentioned in the next magazin.
I contacted my friends and asked if they have the same bugs and issues in the PS 4 Version and they have the same bugs so I asked them to report that too.
I stream my hopeless try's of getting gold, showing all my viewers that the PS 4 Version is buggy and makes the prestige mode way harder then it should be.
I post everywhere and I will do! This is definetly my last EA game if we don't get help AND the same fair chances PC player have to get gold on all events.
I'm off now, trying to get gold on the next race event and will restarting it over and over again cause I don't get it how to train preventing bugs and getting more luck in them! >:/ - Anonymous9 years ago
Yeah the try hard is the best part. I have Trials Fusion completed. It took me about 20 hours to get the time trial just right for one of the tracks on the last DLC. A track that takes less than 1 minute to complete. Why I trained so long? Why I never complained about it? Why it felt good to do it?
First of all because Trials is a HARD game. It has always been hard, I was aware it was gonna be a hard game start to finish and I jumped in knowing that.
Why did I jump in? Because the game is DAMN GOOD! I never failed because of the game. Every one of my thousands of failed attempts were because I was making mistakes. No randomness is involved, just practice. The game works flawlessly. I can retry with a single button push when I make a mistake and I know the fault is on me and that I have to practice that part in order to pass it the way I need to pass for the medal.
Now, we are talking about Need for Speed. A game that could be called fun at most when it was casual, because as a casual game you don't have to retry races all the time, you don't have to be perfect on your run, so you don't get to see many flaws or broken mechanics. Now, after this update it's what? A mediocre game? A poorly done game? A broken game?
When even the people that complete the challenge you make in a game says it's a bad thing, not fun at all and should be removed, there's something REALLY wrong with you if you continue to say otherwise...
It's like writing a book and submitting it to your editor. And the guy says: "It's a good book, you can sell it, but take out this one part that makes everyone realize your main plot is seriously flawed." And the writer refuses to take it from the book. And it gets printed anyway, and people read it and say: "man, that part is horrible! Why is it in the book? It would be SO MUCH BETTER if it wasn't!" And you still refuse to take it out on a reprint because you like it, and it's your work and artistic expression and all that *. Ok, it's your work and you have the right to be stubborn and do as you please. It does not make it the right choice. It continues to be the obviously wrong choice to everyone around, except you.
In short, you'll die knowing that it was wrong and you did not fix it because you didn't want to cave in and that is the truth behind it. The "we wanna leave it for now because of the die hard fans" excuse is destroyed the minute people that completed it still say it's **** and should be removed.
I go back to my Watch Dogs example again. I completed the drinking game and a friend could not. When he talked to me about it I said to him: "yeah, it's ****. It shouldn't be that hard, it's not fun at all and I only kept trying because it was my last 10g to complete the game." Some time later he told me it was patched to make it easier and he completed it. My answer was "good, now it's a much more consistent game, that part was really off". We both ended up happy with the game and we both will pick up Watch Dogs 2. Now, with Need for Speed, people that don't wanna even try to complete it because it's not fun anymore won't pick up the next one and people that completed it are also unhappy and will think twice about picking up the next one either. You are not making ANYONE happy, but you insist it's the way it should be.
Another good example. The new Agatha Christie game. It was patched (I don't even know what they fixed) but this patch broke one of the achievements. I went to the dev team facebook page and asked if they were aware of it, if they had plans to fix it and that I would only pick their game up if it was fixed because I didn't think it was right to buy a broken product. They answered me a few days later stating that they were aware and the fix was being made. Go and look at my played games to see if Agatha Christie is not there. Of course I picked it up to reward the care they had with us consumers by fixing the issue! That's all we can do in the end, chose who to support and who to ignore by using our wallets wisely.
All I can say is, I'll be back on the message boards for the next Need for Speed game, reminding everyone up there how the team ignored the problem and made the game not fun on purpose. Maybe when 10 or 20 threads pop up there reminding everyone about this DLC weeks before the release of the new game you'll think it's a good idea to fix it...
- Anonymous9 years ago
Guys maybe You help me. What I did wrong? Because I don't know, but I supposed that this is my fault because this behaviour is normal. Is nothing strange with this. I normally too drive and do this in street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGMCSxhY0Lk&feature=youtu.be
Ok be serious. This is prove how game work. Can record how clock works. Because i did this run perfectly and got time 1:42:27 (gold time is 1:43:00) and my time after crossed line was 1:43:31. Can record if someone don't believe me. This is one of thousand examples how this game work. Tell me where is skill in this game? Please tell me because i trying very hard few hours everyday and can't do this event who should be end 1 hour earlier. I know where I do mistake and know where game specially cheat me. Really try hard and those situation make frustration players who try do this. This is technical problem how this problem want fix? Because we told about challenge so I would like know what those situation have anything common with skill. This is not funny. This post haven't target blame game, bugs etc but show that is problem with this and game still have a lot bugs. Car appeared from nowhere and only target was stopping me even when he has take half street.
Zera
Edit:
Finally did but still is problem and got hope that movie show You why people are angry, game make frustration. I have hope that You understand why people said that this depends from luck
Edit 2
I send to You movie with this event. Is really hard but please look on one thing. Please stop movie with time. I crossed finish line with time 1:42:26 and show time 1:42:99. Are situation that clock add even 1 - 2 second. Can send movie if You want with this because I got this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qVBAIupp44&feature=youtu.be
- Anonymous9 years ago
Hi EA_Tom
At first I want to thank you, for answering to this problem. Excuse me in advance if my english is too bad.
I agree with you that there should be a challenge for the Hardcore players, but i'm pretty sure, the most customers who play this games are non hardcore gamers and the goal of your company is to satisfy them and not only the hardcore gamers. So that makes your arguments pretty invalid.
The problem is not to challenge the players, but how insane the challenges are: for example the first sprint race of the prestige events is about 6.12 km and i have to make it in 1min and 25 seconds my average topspeed has to be higher than 240km/h in a city with other cars and cops and a lot of objects i can't control, so this events are not a challenge they are based on pure luck, my chances to win the lottery are higher.For example in the Formula one, the tracks are around 5.5 to 6km the circuits have no other civilians on the track nor cops or objects on the track or around them they could crash on, they still need around 1:30min per round, and we all know this cars are driven by professional drivers and are built with the best materials of our time, they are light the aerodynamics are perfect and the engines have a lot of power, long story short: these cars are all better than the ones we have in the game, and neither they are able to get those times.
Now please EA_Tom tell me with the laws of physics how the hell should your biggest group of customers the non Hardcore players be able to win Gold medals on tracks that are based on pure luck?You are the voice of the community, you are the knot between us and the developers, if you can't convince them, who the hell then??
I'm a quality manager at my company, and if I see that our customers are complaining about a product, i'm pretty sure not going to tell them they should practice on them. If one of our customers or a lot of our customers (like here) are complaining about a issue, Im going to fix that * problem ASAP, because YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE KINGS . And the strategy you are following here, is just to calm the people down because the sentence "there is the opportunity we will change it in the future." Is the wrong answer to the problem. The right answer is: "Thank you for your feedback, we are doing everything to fix that issue and make your day comfortable. We will give you a feedback as fast as possible" As a costumer i don't care how you fix the problem, but i care that you fix the problem. The answers you have given to this community so far are not just unprofessional they are a slap in the face of your customers, and they will resolve nothing.And the bigger issue is that the company you work for has a lot of studios under them, so the work of one studio and the way you handle the problems of this studios games, will effect all other studios, who maybe work hard and will not sell as much games as they expected just because they publisher can't handle issues. Is that fair?
Your work with one game can affect all other games that maybe are good.
Now I hope you understand the importance of your job.
As far as I can say, your company can be lucky, because your customers are not just complaining no, they even are giving you feedback on how you could change the issues, they are helping you all the way, this makes your treatment even harder to them and your creditability even worser. In the industry i work for , no one of our customers are going to help you. they tell you the problem and you are on yourself till the problem is fixed, and if you can't fix it, you will lose your customer, and to get their trust back you will start again from the bottom.
For now i will not buy Mirrors edge Catalyst because of this issue and because i can't trust your companies work. Neither will my friends, because i will tell them not to, your reputation in my community will suffer from your work here.
Kind regards and have a nice day - Anonymous9 years ago
Only Tom answered us but can't be situation like this.
- Anonymous9 years ago
Said before Toms job is to shut us up and hope we move on. The fact HE marked this as accepted solution proves this. So it doesn't look bad on EA, at first glance on this site it looks like this issue was fixed by EA, when in fact we all disagree. EA made a mistake, it's Toms job to brush it under the rug from the community, which is ALL he has done.
- Anonymous9 years ago
NVM
- Anonymous9 years ago
I am unable to come anywhere near the gold times too.
The difficulty of this DLC is nowhere near the main game and even harder than the Ken Block DLC which was already harder than the main game.
Furthermore, you pretty much broke the game with the latest update as so many people have already posted.
The gold times are just insane. I have nothing against a challenge, heck, I even platinumed GT5 as that was skill and not luck based.
@Straatford87: You have said in another thread here that you have not even played the new DLC. How about trying it first yourself before marking this problem as solved?
Yes, a select few have actually managed this achievement (21 people to the best of my knowledge on the PS4), but that is a ridiculously low number when you consider how many copies you sold or how many people are still playing.
If this isn't fixed, I can only see that last update as a giant FU to the players and will not buy another EA game either.
- Anonymous9 years ago
1.Topic was created in the same day when DLC came out. Brings a lot bugs and difficulty is insane, mostly depend from luck not skill
2.Instead fix this, focus that something is wrong You decided wrote big announced about experience in this game and do New Need For Speed, left support this game.
3. You got soluton about this and we got answer about this...maybe change in the future. Solution You got before You announced that game will be no longer support.
4.Currently 95% players got troubles with this, frame decrease,sometimes cars don't steer properly,spawn traffic and behaviour isn't normal.
5.The hottest topic was mark as solved when problem this is exist and nothing was solved.
6.We wrote this even on forum Need For Speed, Twitter (few players wrote) and we didn't got answer.
7.Our behaviour was a lot fair even after announced not support game we still write in this topic that is problem, and wanted only patch with a lower requirements who will be equal and compare with behaviour AI like is at the moment.
My behaviour is still fair because I really don't want do this. Really just want fix this. But this seems like we can say You do nothing. Sorry but Your actions told me this very clearly so what i have choice? Tell me. I don't have any choice than write to our companies. Never should be situation that our last line is write to Sony and Xbox about delete trophies/achievement because You don't want hear us. NEVER!!!!
Zera
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