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The fraud that is NFS:NL

I have to post this research here after being told by support that my concerns should be posted on their facebook page instead of handling the problem properly.

I've been playing this game since last year, got to level 74 and bought some of the in-apps in the store to get ahead in the game. I've had the impression that the mini-draws after a race were biased against the player, but I didn't have proof until now. I'm tired of the BS this game is forcing on us; I have proof that these mini-draws are not random and the results are not random, instead they are pre-selected so the material you played the race for will not be winnable on certain occasions (if you are trying to get more than one material of your choosing on the 3 races you are allowed per event).

In a real 3-way draw of 3 possible options the chances of obtaining one option on each slot are statistically calculable, I made a save game before entering this race (screenshot 1: chapter 11 - riding dirty (blockade)). I completed the race and was presented with the 3 options for the draw (screenshot 2). My target was to get the fasteners so I can upgrade my BMW M4 for the upcoming ferrari stage. Well, I raced and selected the first slot... and was awarded the input shaft.

Then this is what I did: I downloaded my saved game. I went to the same race and won. the 3 options for the draw were the same, in different order. I selected the first slot... and I got the input shaft again.

So far, that is statistically acceptable. But this is what happened after reloading my saved game and playing 12 TIMES the race: I got the input shaft on the first slot no matter what were the options offered.

Then it got worse. I reloaded my saved game and played 12 TIMES the race again, this time selecting always the SECOND slot... I got the input shaft EVERY TIME.

So, in order to be thorough and be sure to call this game a FRAUD, a reloaded my saved game and played 13 TIMES the race again this time selecting the THIRD slot. No surprises this time, I got the input shaft EVERY TIME AGAIN.

I'm trying to get my money back through support but it seems that nobody in the Firemonkeys team is dedicated to actual customer service. More than my money, what angers me the most is the time I invested in this sore excuse for a sleazy casino-slot game disguised as racing. I trusted the Firemonkeys because I play Real Racing 3 and I have hundreds of hours on that game in spite of their restless attempts to collect money from me. I know better now, and I'm abandoning this game with a hard lesson earned: EA/Firemonkeys are no better than Gameloft when it comes to racing apps.

I don't know if any of you in this forum have the same feeling; I dare you to invest a little of your grinding time to replicate my experiment and confirm/dispute what I had proved on my end. I'm playing on an android phone and the game version is 1.2.6. Please post your results in this thread in case you run your own tests; maybe the facts and our protest will force the developers to come clean and fix this abuse.

  • I don't normally necro threads but given we were discussing this issue almost 2 years ago and there are recent developments I figured I would share them.

    So today (due to yet more cash grabbing by EA) the Belgian Gaming Commission has stated that RNG boxes in video games are classed as gambling and as such they must abide by gambling laws (I explained the legal position on this a looong time ago - see earlier int his thread).  They are now looking to ban Pay to Win RNG boxes in video games which is likely to become an EU wide ban at some point int he next couple of years.

    Furthermore, Politicians in the US are also calling out EA's predatory practices (gambling laws in the US are very strict) so we will probably see some action there as well in the not too distant future.

    So back to this thread - because it has now been established that RNG boxes are a form of gambling, they must follow gambling laws which means that the outcome cannot be pre-determined in a game of chance - meaning that the boxes in NFS:No Limits -must- be random in order to be lawful.

    I haven't done any further research on the boxes in NFS:No Limits on whether or not EA have changed their behaviour to make the outcome random or not since this thread back in 2016 - but it would be interesting to know.

    Today's ruling by the Belgian Gaming Commission is a really good thing because RNG boxes have rapidly become one of the worst aspects of video games and I for one will be very glad to see them gone for good.

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