A buddy made this video. Aljo keeps asking for video of stuff. Here's a great one for you 🙂 [Video removed for immediate profanity - Admin.]EDIT: Video was removed for profanity, wow. Speechless.If anyone wants to see the video just look up NHL 23: The Worst NHL Game Ever? on youtube. The user who posted it is named llampen NHL

@Nammer604 I only made it halfway through before it became too frustrating to watch. Within the first minute alone, I saw enough of this games flaws to want to rage quit watching a yt vid. Lol. It's ridiculous that nothing has been done with all the feedback this year. Almost all comments I read EVERYWHERE are negative but this is the year gameplay gets left alone and they cancel tuners? It just doesn't make sense and isn't fair to us in the least bit. The biggest takeaway I got from the vid is how offense always gets the advantage on loose pucks.You poke the puck only for it to unrealistically take a weird route right to their teammates. Or the off player will reach through bodies to get it before the def man who's feet it's between can grab it. Or how about when. You lay a hit, and he somehow gets up, shakes off the hit and keeps going with the puck while your def player stares at it deciding if he wants it or not. What's sad is these aren't even new complaints. Most of this has existed for several years,...generations even.

I don't want to just call "bad defending" but incidental contact was heavily nerfed a game or two ago so that's why the carrier is maintaining possession as easily as they are.That said, I fully agree loose pucks and hitting are in a horrible place right now - I honestly don't see the series getting any better without MAJOR shakeups to EA's decision makers and coding team.

@EA_Aljo Here's the thing though: I won't speak for others but when I was freaking out about the "week 1 reversion patch" every year, it was because I always enjoyed what you did in the beta and hated that the first patch threw away every change y'all made and turned it back into, essentially, a $90 stat wipe. This year when the team decided "hey, everyone hates when we patch stuff so let's not do anything at all" - the year we absolutely, positively, objectionably NEEDED that patch - It leaves me totally flabbergasted.Like, it honestly could not have taken the dev team an entire year's worth of time/money/effort to do what we got... That's why I get so heated. Like, instead of just reverting the game back to a previous state or not doing anything at all, I find it weird how the team doesn't want to/can't just sit in a room and discuss ways to making meaningful improvements...As for the old forum discussions and stuff - I am willing to take some of the blame but not all of it. This was a 50/50 situation that got out of hand. What I got out of most of that was how according to some people, the game was running the way it was supposed to and it was the community that wasn't doing things right (and that my team just needs to "get better"). I would like to suggest the community and dev team start a discussion here under the guise of "aliens are invading earth so we must all set aside our differences for the greater good (of NHL)".Regardless of all the full sim and arcade stuff, NHL, as a video game, just isn't up to par.

@EA_Aljo You said that you watched that video right? Everything in there and forced cross creases that go right through my stick blade, feet, body etc....Offense has always been favored in this game but this years edition is just beyond frustrating when trying to defend. I feel really bad for full time d men because you basically took away 2 of their most effective tools to defend.I play a lot and I also play in competitive leagues (WOHL, LG for west coast players). Myself and everyone that I know who are good players say the EXACT same thing.This game just isn't fun and frustrating to play. We only play it because we love hockey and don't have any other alternative.EA is lucky that they're the only one's making hockey because if they had competition and a developer that listened, gave CONSTANT feedback/communication and made changes that we asked for, A LOT of us wouldn't hesitate to jump ship.I'm sick and tired of saying the same thing year after year. Instead of focusing on core GAMEPLAY that functions PROPERLY, they keep adding in gimmicky things that no one is asking for. You wonder why the same things are broken year after year, it's because they're never fixed properly and more stuff is added into an already broken game. The code is so jumbled and massive that of course when you "fix" something, something else ends up being broken in the process.

The blueline poke at 0:46 is the most NHL 23 thing ever. Perfect poke check against the grain of a player caught flat footed and the puck goes NOWHERE. Then an auto-animation takes place so that player can quickly regain possession. This game is an absolute joke. As a competitive player, who am I playing against more? Another player's skill or the mechanics of the game?

NHL 23 summed up in this video | EA Forums

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Kmahrle83
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
@Nammer604 I only made it halfway through before it became too frustrating to watch. Within the first minute alone, I saw enough of this games flaws to want to rage quit watching a yt vid. Lol. It's ridiculous that nothing has been done with all the feedback this year. Almost all comments I read EVERYWHERE are negative but this is the year gameplay gets left alone and they cancel tuners? It just doesn't make sense and isn't fair to us in the least bit. The biggest takeaway I got from the vid is how offense always gets the advantage on loose pucks.

You poke the puck only for it to unrealistically take a weird route right to their teammates. Or the off player will reach through bodies to get it before the def man who's feet it's between can grab it. Or how about when. You lay a hit, and he somehow gets up, shakes off the hit and keeps going with the puck while your def player stares at it deciding if he wants it or not. What's sad is these aren't even new complaints. Most of this has existed for several years,...generations even.
TTZ_Dipsy
Hero+
3 years ago
I don't want to just call "bad defending" but incidental contact was heavily nerfed a game or two ago so that's why the carrier is maintaining possession as easily as they are.

That said, I fully agree loose pucks and hitting are in a horrible place right now - I honestly don't see the series getting any better without MAJOR shakeups to EA's decision makers and coding team.
jadaseian
3 years ago
@Nammer604 Most quality feedback video ever. It's crings AF to watch and I feel ashamed for continuously buying this game. Hope EA feels some of that too.
BIGRlTCHY
3 years ago
I know of this guy too. One of the top content creators in the game. Just checked Twitter and noticed there is another issue that I published videos here that majority of the community is dealing with also. How this game hasn’t been fixed when these issues are ruining customer experience is mind boggling. Why push forward 24 production at this point when 23 is just pure garbage.
Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@BIGRlTCHY I get that they don't want to give us timelines for things getting fixed but at least say that they're being looked into and will be fixed. We don't need a date that it will be fixed by, we just need to know that it's being looked into and will be fixed. Aljo's canned message about stuff being forwarded to the devs doesn't do any good. Sure, you can forward the info to the devs but that doesn't mean that it will be addressed at all. There needs to be better communication to us on what's being worked on and transparency
BIGRlTCHY
3 years ago
Yes communication is key! This is a product that is being sold to customers at a AAA price. If you ever take business/management it is the companies responsibility to provide feedback on broken issues within the product. At this point the vast majority of the consumers are upset and we need an answer from EA themselves.
Sega82mega
3 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy wrote:

I honestly don't see the series getting any better without MAJOR shakeups to EA's decision makers and coding team.
+1
I wonder when that will happen.
I've been around and it takes time before you see and feel significant changes to the core gameplay.
93 to 00 was one thing and then everything started to change and by 07 they introduced the skill stick wich was a gamechanger, can't really recall when the skating first started to feel more 3-D 'ish, or how I should put it.. But that was also a big thing that made the whole game to feel diffrent.
07-14 was perhaps the best era were both skill stick and the new skating(ill guess) keept the game interesting.
But from 15 until today, 23, things are pretty much the same. Maybe you can call it 'the vision control era', L"ting has more or less been a big thing every sence it first got introduced in 15...(correct me if im wrong though).
But other from that, just some small improvements here and there, one thing gets better and another thing gets worse, but overall, baby steps in right direction but still a core gameplay that drives the majority of the player base to insanity.
I really hope something new is about to happen, I think a lot of people are pretty fed up with 'everything' that reminds them about this game.
MAJOR shakeups is definitely something thats much needed, but there's something about the 'time-line' that gives me hope, maybe 24-30'ish will be a new era to start loving and hating something new.
Jammalammalam
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@Nammer604See if you can get your buddy to reupload without the commentary so it can be posted here. That video is absolutely spot on concerning both the shameless offensive blitz vs what it's like playing defense.
Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@Jammalammalam I asked him to see if he can edit out the swearing. We need this video to go viral. We're sick and tired of broken gameplay
BassMan_PC
3 years ago
Great video. Really shows how broken the game is.